OH-SEN 2024: Brown (D) vs Moreno (R)
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« Reply #550 on: March 20, 2024, 11:02:38 AM »

Good chance Moreno will be the candidate where Dem interference in Republican primaries finally backfires on them.

Brown has 5 pt lead bigger leads than Dolan in GE
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« Reply #551 on: March 20, 2024, 11:03:45 AM »

Good chance Moreno will be the candidate where Dem interference in Republican primaries finally backfires on them.

Yes, because “Democratic intereference” is clearly the reason a guy won a GOP primary by eighteen points.  Come on now.
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« Reply #552 on: March 20, 2024, 11:04:33 AM »
« Edited: March 20, 2024, 01:09:08 PM by Oryxslayer »

Good chance Moreno will be the candidate where Dem interference in Republican primaries finally backfires on them.

You really think this guy got nominated because of the Dems? Not the Trump endorsement? Not overwhelming base support that outperformed polling? And how his best counties were not the Dem ones  - those were Dolans - but the western ones where the GOP is German-American and devout?

Okay...
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« Reply #553 on: March 20, 2024, 11:17:11 AM »

Good chance Moreno will be the candidate where Dem interference in Republican primaries finally backfires on them.

Moreno won by 50.5% and every county in the state.

Man republicans must be dumb as hell for all of them to be that easily duped
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« Reply #554 on: March 20, 2024, 11:23:25 AM »

It is obvious that what RI actually meant is that the “strategy” of preferring the most extreme candidate will likely fail this fall.
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« Reply #555 on: March 20, 2024, 11:41:43 AM »

It is obvious that what RI actually meant is that the “strategy” of preferring the most extreme candidate will likely fail this fall.

The “strategy” implies that the Democrats made a difference and Moreno would have lost without their help.
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« Reply #556 on: March 20, 2024, 12:07:14 PM »

It is obvious that what RI actually meant is that the “strategy” of preferring the most extreme candidate will likely fail this fall.

The “strategy” implies that the Democrats made a difference and Moreno would have lost without their help.

Not necessarily, all it implies is that they view him as a candidate they can beat. If they lose to him, it discredits that narrative.
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« Reply #557 on: March 20, 2024, 12:16:27 PM »



Does this suggest that Moreno will be a moderate in the Senate on LGBTQ issues?
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« Reply #558 on: March 20, 2024, 12:24:16 PM »



Bold strategy, there.
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« Reply #559 on: March 20, 2024, 01:32:45 PM »

Good chance Moreno will be the candidate where Dem interference in Republican primaries finally backfires on them.

Wasn’t that candidate Donald Trump?
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« Reply #560 on: March 20, 2024, 06:19:18 PM »



Bold strategy, there.

It worked for Governor Lake...wait...
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« Reply #561 on: March 24, 2024, 06:16:32 PM »

Interesting that Moreno in his speech said the American dream is not him being able to own multiple car dealerships but his father in law graduating from High School and being able to work at US Steel, own a home, a car, raise 3 children in a crime free community and retire debt free. Very different from Romney, back in 2012 GOP talked a lot more about how business owners were the embodiment of the American Dream, now the talk is of workers.
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« Reply #562 on: April 03, 2024, 11:30:57 AM »

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« Reply #563 on: April 04, 2024, 12:07:04 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2024, 01:55:12 PM by ProgressiveModerate »



This is the turnout shift map from 2018 Sen --> 2022 Sen. A huge reason why Brown won and Ryan lost is because 2018 turnout was favorable to Dems, 2022 was favorable to Rs. Most of rural OH roughly matched 2018 turnout, but turnout in the main Dem cities absolutely collapsed.

To be clear turnout doesn't explain everything; Brown clearly got better persuasion than Ryan, but it's an important part of the picture I think some overlook.

2024 turnout dynamics will likely be more even.
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« Reply #564 on: April 09, 2024, 08:45:43 AM »

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« Reply #565 on: April 09, 2024, 12:22:26 PM »

Split Ticket moves OH-SEN from Lean R to Tossup: https://split-ticket.org/2024/04/09/temperature-check-ohio-senate/
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« Reply #566 on: April 17, 2024, 08:52:02 AM »

Pissing off union works in Ohio of all places!

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« Reply #567 on: April 17, 2024, 09:06:04 AM »

Pissing off union works in Ohio of all places!



The GOP is really terrible at nominating good candidates in competitive races. The question here is whether the state's partisan lean in a presidential year is enough to bail Moreno out.
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« Reply #568 on: April 17, 2024, 02:21:25 PM »


This unironically might matter more than we think.

Oh my God.....

This race is over. All Brown has to do is slyly slip a picture of Moreno at his graduation wearing blue and gold with the big yellow "M" of the Big House in the background in one of his ads.

The hatred that Ohio has for UofM right now after the cheating operation that allowed them to steal three wins against OSU CANNOT be understated.
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« Reply #569 on: April 17, 2024, 02:53:12 PM »


This unironically might matter more than we think.

Oh my God.....

This race is over. All Brown has to do is slyly slip a picture of Moreno at his graduation wearing blue and gold with the big yellow "M" of the Big House in the background in one of his ads.

The hatred that Ohio has for UofM right now after the cheating operation that allowed them to steal three wins against OSU CANNOT be understated.

Pundits underestimate the affinity people have for there collleges, especially when one is blatantly cheating the other.

It kind plays into the elites vs common man trope
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« Reply #570 on: April 17, 2024, 03:02:04 PM »

Vance and Trump are cleary a better fit for the state than Moreno, but Ohio do lean R.

Brown should do an 'remembering my childhood in my hometown' style ad.
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« Reply #571 on: April 17, 2024, 03:13:52 PM »

Pissing off union works in Ohio of all places!



The GOP is really terrible at nominating good candidates in competitive races. The question here is whether the state's partisan lean in a presidential year is enough to bail Moreno out.

Yeah, it seems like 2024 is shaping up as another candidate recruitment failure for Republicans. So basically a repeat of 2022 in that regard. Moreno may still win, but if so only because of partisan coattails.
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« Reply #572 on: April 17, 2024, 04:19:30 PM »

Goodbye Sherrod Brown after voting to kill the Mayorkas Impeachment.
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« Reply #573 on: April 17, 2024, 04:21:14 PM »

Goodbye Sherrod Brown after voting to kill the Mayorkas Impeachment.

Nobody’s going to remember this come November. If Brown loses it won’t be because of this.
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« Reply #574 on: April 17, 2024, 04:40:56 PM »

Goodbye Sherrod Brown after voting to kill the Mayorkas Impeachment.

Nobody’s going to remember this come November. If Brown loses it won’t be because of this.
Immigration along with the Economy are the Top Issues for Voters and unless Brown can change that he's going to lose. Having already an Abortion Amendment on the Ballot in 2023 won't help Brown either.
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