OH-SEN 2024: Brown (D) vs Moreno (R)
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« Reply #200 on: May 15, 2023, 06:13:26 PM »

Still Lean R.

Biden would be smart in saving Brown from humiliation and giving him the Labor Secy. position....

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« Reply #201 on: May 15, 2023, 06:23:40 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2023, 06:31:56 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Still Lean R.

Biden would be smart in saving Brown from humiliation and giving him the Labor Secy. position....



Lol it's no Emerson poll 🛑 with this Lean R you know why Ryan lost DeWine outpolled Vance by 20 do you know Brown and Tester, Gallego, Kunce, and ALLRED approves are 50, the Jax mayor race will set the stage up for S I have FL Lean R yahoo news told me Rod JOSEPH can unseat Scott so I changed it D

As always maps are blank on Eday Peltola, Laura Kelly, CCM overcame Lean R ratings in their races

Once Emerson polls it and they were still wrong in NV then we have something

Impact had Ryan leading until Hurricane IAN and they have Presley only down 3

Trump is losing to Biden do you know where Bush W, Obama and Trump were in reelection they were all losing 45/51 to Kerry, Romney and Bernie , Biden being ahead by 10 in POS polls shows his strength not weakness as a candidate blue wave potential
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« Reply #202 on: May 15, 2023, 06:59:48 PM »

Still Lean R.

Biden would be smart in saving Brown from humiliation and giving him the Labor Secy. position....



And give DeWine the chance to make the Senate 50/50 again by appointing a Republican? That would be horrifically dumb on his part.
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« Reply #203 on: May 15, 2023, 08:59:55 PM »

Still Lean R.

Biden would be smart in saving Brown from humiliation and giving him the Labor Secy. position....



And give DeWine the chance to make the Senate 50/50 again by appointing a Republican? That would be horrifically dumb on his part.

That too....but Brown could beat Dolan. Dolan is a billionaire and his family are horrible businesspeople....plus the GOP base would attack Dolan for changing the name from "Indians" to "Guardians"
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« Reply #204 on: May 22, 2023, 10:59:21 AM »

Really not sending their best:
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« Reply #205 on: May 22, 2023, 11:00:50 AM »

Brown and Tester have 50% or better Approvals
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« Reply #206 on: May 22, 2023, 02:07:37 PM »


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« Reply #207 on: May 22, 2023, 02:14:04 PM »

Brown and Tester have 50% or better Approvals

Heidi Heitkamp had 60% approvals at this point in 2018 and we all know how that ended. The question is if Brown and Tester will survive the negative barrage of attack ads, and all the available evidence suggests they won’t.
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« Reply #208 on: May 22, 2023, 02:23:46 PM »

Brown and Tester have 50% or better Approvals

Heidi Heitkamp had 60% approvals at this point in 2018 and we all know how that ended. The question is if Brown and Tester will survive the negative barrage of attack ads, and all the available evidence suggests they won’t.

Umm…Trump won North Dakota by over 30 points. He only won Montana by 16 and Ohio by8. Not a fair comparison.
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« Reply #209 on: May 22, 2023, 07:13:36 PM »

Not seeing how Dolan is more electable than LaRose; both have a strength with marginally Republican voters.
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« Reply #210 on: May 22, 2023, 07:15:57 PM »
« Edited: May 22, 2023, 07:22:39 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Brown and Tester have 50% or better Approvals

Lol SO19 had Fetterman losing so I won't listen until the Emerson poll Biden is leading Trump and DeSantis in Change poll 48/43 that's a landslide which won't happen til Oct 24 Harold Ford race wasn't competetive till Oct 2006, that's why I have a wave map not a 303 waves happen 29 days out, if Brown wins we clinch the Senate

Heidi Heitkamp had 60% approvals at this point in 2018 and we all know how that ended. The question is if Brown and Tester will survive the negative barrage of attack ads, and all the available evidence suggests they won’t.

Umm…Trump won North Dakota by over 30 points. He only won Montana by 16 and Ohio by8. Not a fair comparison.
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« Reply #211 on: May 22, 2023, 07:28:04 PM »

Brown and Tester have 50% or better Approvals

Heidi Heitkamp had 60% approvals at this point in 2018 and we all know how that ended. The question is if Brown and Tester will survive the negative barrage of attack ads, and all the available evidence suggests they won’t.

Umm…Trump won North Dakota by over 30 points. He only won Montana by 16 and Ohio by8. Not a fair comparison.

The idea is just that approval ratings mean nothing right now. Also Brown’s numbers are 44-35, the approval number is very close to what Democrats in Ohio tend to get, which suggests undecideds lean Republican.
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« Reply #212 on: May 22, 2023, 09:01:52 PM »

Brown and Tester have 50% or better Approvals

Heidi Heitkamp had 60% approvals at this point in 2018 and we all know how that ended. The question is if Brown and Tester will survive the negative barrage of attack ads, and all the available evidence suggests they won’t.

Umm…Trump won North Dakota by over 30 points. He only won Montana by 16 and Ohio by8. Not a fair comparison.

Don't bother. If I remember correctly, this time last year he was saying that there was no way a Democrat could win PA-Sen because it was too red.
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« Reply #213 on: May 23, 2023, 06:54:26 AM »
« Edited: May 23, 2023, 07:13:06 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

That's why I don't listen to S019 we are trying to get a Filibuster proof Trifecta and if Brown wins we win the S, furthermore, Biden is up 5 pts, someone that has Fetterman losing I won't listen, his R nut map is identical to OSR whom believes DeSantis whom is a Grover Norquist clone is gonna be Prez

It's called a blue wave it's not called a 303 neutral yr map

They said on Yahoo news Rod JOSEPH in FL whom is an Army bet and Jennifer McCormick blue dog can win in IN and FLORIDA

Trailing 5 points this early for both Trump and DeSantis is very bad for them not good news


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Lean D AZ, MT and OH
Tossup TX and  MO
Wish list FL, WV

We have no nominee in FLORIDA

Id Brown wins we win the S also DeWine was on the ballot in 22 he isnt in there this time he outpolled Vance by 20 and much stronger than 20o6/18 when Brown won the fact that DeWine isn't on the ballot is good news for Brown

Kasich and DeWine thank goodness he is TL were unbeatable
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« Reply #214 on: May 23, 2023, 01:13:33 PM »

Brown and Tester have 50% or better Approvals

Heidi Heitkamp had 60% approvals at this point in 2018 and we all know how that ended. The question is if Brown and Tester will survive the negative barrage of attack ads, and all the available evidence suggests they won’t.

Umm…Trump won North Dakota by over 30 points. He only won Montana by 16 and Ohio by8. Not a fair comparison.

Don't bother. If I remember correctly, this time last year he was saying that there was no way a Democrat could win PA-Sen because it was too red.

It wasn’t that, it was because it was a midterm year when the President’s approvals looked horrid and there will be no surprise from SCOTUS to save them this time. The consensus this time last year was that Democrats would be fortunate to have 48 Senate seats, and again none of those states they were defending were as red as Ohio or Montana. I mean let’s be honest if there were Republican incumbents in Virginia or New Jersey would anyone on this forum think they had a chance?
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« Reply #215 on: May 23, 2023, 02:55:18 PM »
« Edited: May 23, 2023, 02:59:10 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I am not saying that we are gonna win OH but if Brown wins we win the S and Rev Barber super PAC is putting money into Brown like he did Ryan but Vance only won by 5 pts, he didn't win by DeWine 25 pts, and you also said Cameron was gonna beat Beshesr and Presley are 3 pts down to Reeves I am anxious awaiting the results of 23 to see how we perform in red states the Rs underperforming by 11 in WI and PA 52/48 and lost FL Mayor all with Biden low Approvals
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« Reply #216 on: May 26, 2023, 07:57:36 PM »
« Edited: May 26, 2023, 08:34:59 PM by BuckeyeNut »

Not seeing how Dolan is more electable than LaRose; both have a strength with marginally Republican voters.

Dolan's got far more crossover appeal than LaRose, who has burnt through most of it. Ironically, that might make LaRose more electable since Dolan would undoubtedly draw an independent "true conservative" challenger if he were to win the primary. Then again, LaRose still hasn't patched up his base problem; or hadn't at this time last year.
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« Reply #217 on: May 27, 2023, 09:07:00 AM »
« Edited: May 27, 2023, 09:10:48 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Brown isn't gonna win by six but if Presley and Beshesr can win in Nov Brown can surely win by 2 51/49

DeWine won by 25; not Vance, and isn't on the ballot
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« Reply #218 on: May 30, 2023, 09:33:23 AM »

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« Reply #219 on: May 30, 2023, 10:24:10 AM »

I'm pretty shocked by this. Not only would have had CFG's backing, but being the only candidate not from Northeast Ohio would have given him a real leg up in the primary.
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« Reply #220 on: May 30, 2023, 10:25:42 AM »


Drat! He would have given Brown a much better chance
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« Reply #221 on: May 30, 2023, 10:30:30 AM »

I'm pretty shocked by this. Not only would have had CFG's backing, but being the only candidate not from Northeast Ohio would have given him a real leg up in the primary.

I’m actually not that surprised. I feel like if Davidson had wanted to run for Senate, he would’ve done it in 2022 when there was an open seat.

It looks like this primary is going to come down to Dolan, Moreno, and (likely) LaRose. If LaRose enters, I think it’s advantage Dolan, as LaRose and Moreno would split the “MAGA” vote. If it’s a two way race between Dolan and Moreno, I think Moreno is favored.
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« Reply #222 on: May 30, 2023, 10:33:52 AM »
« Edited: May 30, 2023, 10:37:18 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Brown is gonna win once Brown wins and OH turns blue Eday is OVER, OH EC VOTES TAKES THE Place OF VA, WE ARE GONNA WIN ALL THE 303 STATES PLUS OH BUT TRUMP IS GONNA HAVE TO OFFER HIS CONCESSION SPEECH, which he didn't last time

As I said many times Vance won by 5 DEWine win by 25 that's MOE without DeWine whom is TL

Cook has OH S tossup anyways
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« Reply #223 on: May 30, 2023, 11:03:04 AM »

Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose is going to win the Republican Senate Primary. Why would Ohio Voters choose two Candidates who have lost Statewide Primary Races in 2022, Moreno and Dolan.

Biden isn't going to win Ohio even if Trump is the Nominee. Ohio is Republican Territory!

Senate Republicans have received some massive breaks over the last few weeks.

# 1 West Virginia Governor Jim Justice (R) announces Senate Run.
# 2 Last Week PA State Senator Doug Mastriano (R) announced he would not run for Senate in Pennsylvania likely clearing the way for Hedge Fund Manager & 2022' Senate Candidate Dave McCormick (R) to run.
# 3 Today Ohio Congressman Warren Davidson (R) announced he would not run for Senate which turns the Ohio Republican Senate Primary into a 3-way Primary between LaRose, Moreno and Dolan.

Mastriano & Davidson clearly were the two most unelectable Candidates considering Senate Bids for 2024 and they are both out now.

Thus far and it's very early in the 2024 Election Cycle the NRSC Recruiting Efforts under Steve Daines are going a lot better compared to 2022 when Rick Scott was the NRSC Chair.
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« Reply #224 on: May 30, 2023, 02:23:25 PM »

Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose is going to win the Republican Senate Primary. Why would Ohio Voters choose two Candidates who have lost Statewide Primary Races in 2022, Moreno and Dolan.

Biden isn't going to win Ohio even if Trump is the Nominee. Ohio is Republican Territory!

Senate Republicans have received some massive breaks over the last few weeks.

# 1 West Virginia Governor Jim Justice (R) announces Senate Run.
# 2 Last Week PA State Senator Doug Mastriano (R) announced he would not run for Senate in Pennsylvania likely clearing the way for Hedge Fund Manager & 2022' Senate Candidate Dave McCormick (R) to run.
# 3 Today Ohio Congressman Warren Davidson (R) announced he would not run for Senate which turns the Ohio Republican Senate Primary into a 3-way Primary between LaRose, Moreno and Dolan.

Mastriano & Davidson clearly were the two most unelectable Candidates considering Senate Bids for 2024 and they are both out now.

Thus far and it's very early in the 2024 Election Cycle the NRSC Recruiting Efforts under Steve Daines are going a lot better compared to 2022 when Rick Scott was the NRSC Chair.
Candidate quality was only one issue for Rs in 2022. The bigger problem remains - that Rs have an insanely unpopular position on abortion. While this won’t be the only issue in 2024, it’ll be a big one, and Rs are not going to win anything significant until they drag their base into a position that is at least palatable to moderates / independents (I.e. somewhere around a 12-15 week ban).
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