SB 111-09: New Great Society Amendment (Veto Override)
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« on: September 19, 2022, 03:43:08 PM »
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New Great Society Amendment

The New Great Society Act is amended as follows regarding:

Section 5, Subsection
(B). Payroll Tax Increase:

1.) Subchapter A, Section 3101 of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act is amended by striking “6.2 percent” and inserting “7.2 percent”. This provision is hereby repealed and replaced with 3.5 percent.

2.) Subchapter B, Section 3111, subparagraph (a) of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act is amended by striking “6.2 percent” and inserting “7.2 percent”. This provision is hereby repealed and replaced with 3.5 percent.

3.) The aforementioned payroll increase is capped at 3.5 percent for the following ten fiscal years.

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2022, 03:46:02 PM »

The reason for this amendment to the New Great Society is simple. We need to reduce taxation to lessen the burden on millions of our working families. Cutting this payroll tax down a bit does just that. This would halve the payroll tax. Of course, these funds will need to be made up some place else. But I think the burden is just too great on many Atlasians to bear right now.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2022, 11:39:49 PM »

Obviously will not be supporting this nor will I be supporting anything else that seeks to gut the New Great Society.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2022, 08:10:38 PM »

Once again reiterating that I have endorsed lowering the income threshold for UBI so that this doesn't become another free giveaway to the rich. The threshold at $100k is pretty damn high. I would like to hear from other senators on this. We're not gutting the New Great Society Act, but we ought to mend it so that resources are going to the people who actually need the money.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2022, 11:47:40 AM »

Obviously will not be supporting this nor will I be supporting anything else that seeks to gut the New Great Society.

Would you like to elaborate on exactly how this guts anything?
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2022, 03:59:01 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2022, 02:18:27 PM »

Obviously will not be supporting this nor will I be supporting anything else that seeks to gut the New Great Society.

Would you like to elaborate on exactly how this guts anything?
I think his main concern is that these tax cuts will produce a gigantic deficit unless the entire act is repealed (or we raise taxes/cut spending elsewhere).
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2022, 02:53:04 PM »

Obviously will not be supporting this nor will I be supporting anything else that seeks to gut the New Great Society.

Would you like to elaborate on exactly how this guts anything?
I think his main concern is that these tax cuts will produce a gigantic deficit unless the entire act is repealed (or we raise taxes/cut spending elsewhere).

We need to cut spending elsewhere. That is up to us to find consensus on what those cuts should be.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2022, 03:15:36 PM »

We need to cut spending elsewhere. That is up to us to find consensus on what those cuts should be.
Then it would be prudent for the bill’s sponsor to include spending cuts *with* the tax cuts, to avoid creating a crisis for us down the line.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2022, 03:00:07 PM »

We need to cut spending elsewhere. That is up to us to find consensus on what those cuts should be.
Then it would be prudent for the bill’s sponsor to include spending cuts *with* the tax cuts, to avoid creating a crisis for us down the line.

Ya'll are just going to want to amend it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2022, 03:44:26 PM »

Obviously will not be supporting this nor will I be supporting anything else that seeks to gut the New Great Society.

Would you like to elaborate on exactly how this guts anything?
I think his main concern is that these tax cuts will produce a gigantic deficit unless the entire act is repealed (or we raise taxes/cut spending elsewhere).

We need to cut spending elsewhere. That is up to us to find consensus on what those cuts should be.

This is why I recommended a change to the UBI threshold.

$53,413-$106,827 is considered "middle income." Would a change of the UBI threshold to $70,000 alleviate some concerns?
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2022, 03:54:42 PM »

Obviously will not be supporting this nor will I be supporting anything else that seeks to gut the New Great Society.

Would you like to elaborate on exactly how this guts anything?
I think his main concern is that these tax cuts will produce a gigantic deficit unless the entire act is repealed (or we raise taxes/cut spending elsewhere).

We need to cut spending elsewhere. That is up to us to find consensus on what those cuts should be.

This is why I recommended a change to the UBI threshold.

$53,413-$106,827 is considered "middle income." Would a change of the UBI threshold to $70,000 alleviate some concerns?
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2022, 04:05:48 PM »

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Withdrawing this
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2022, 05:20:22 PM »

Obviously will not be supporting this nor will I be supporting anything else that seeks to gut the New Great Society.

Would you like to elaborate on exactly how this guts anything?
I think his main concern is that these tax cuts will produce a gigantic deficit unless the entire act is repealed (or we raise taxes/cut spending elsewhere).

We need to cut spending elsewhere. That is up to us to find consensus on what those cuts should be.

This is why I recommended a change to the UBI threshold.

$53,413-$106,827 is considered "middle income." Would a change of the UBI threshold to $70,000 alleviate some concerns?

Indeed. I can get behind this.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2022, 01:36:56 PM »

Good to hear!

Now if only someone would introduce the amendment that everyone apparently is fine with. Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2022, 01:46:18 PM »

Fine, I'll do it myself.


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New Great Society Amendment

The New Great Society Act is amended as follows regarding:

Section 5, Subsection
(B). Payroll Tax Increase:

1.) Subchapter A, Section 3101 of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act is amended by striking “6.2 percent” and inserting “7.2 percent”. This provision is hereby repealed and replaced with 3.5 percent.

2.) Subchapter B, Section 3111, subparagraph (a) of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act is amended by striking “6.2 percent” and inserting “7.2 percent”. This provision is hereby repealed and replaced with 3.5 percent.

3.) The aforementioned payroll increase is capped at 3.5 percent for the following ten fiscal years.

4.) Section III, subsection 2.1, of the New Great Society Act is Amended as follows:
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Section 2. Monthly Universal Basic Income for Families with Children

1. Beginning in January of 2022, parents or legal guardians of persons under the age of 18 and have a disposable income of less than $100,000 $70,000 shall be entitled to $2,000 monthly checks.
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2022, 02:45:06 PM »

Going to object, and offer my own amendment with the payroll tax cut removed:

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New Great Society Amendment

The New Great Society Act is amended as follows regarding:

4.) Section III, subsection 2.1, of the New Great Society Act is Amended as follows:

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Section 2. Monthly Universal Basic Income for Families with Children

1. Beginning in January of 2022, parents or legal guardians of persons under the age of 18 and have a disposable income of less than $100,000 $70,000 shall be entitled to $2,000 monthly checks.

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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2022, 01:53:54 AM »

A vote is now open on the Weatherboy amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2022, 01:57:01 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2022, 02:20:50 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2022, 05:12:21 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2022, 07:20:09 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2022, 08:49:53 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2022, 11:17:34 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2022, 08:43:41 PM »

Aye because I suppose it’s better than the original bill
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