Texas GOP delaying release of maternal death rate stats until after the election

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First world Texas's death rates: 34.5/100,000 (Mexico=34.2)

Third world California's death rates: 4.0/100,000 (Sweden=5.2)

Very pro-life! #MAGA!

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sh**thole.

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Oregon Dems :

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2018/10/kate_brown_appointee_delays_sc.html

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Digging up old articles as a response is silly especially when the comparison isn't equal. Republicans wanted abortion banned, now they want the numbers covered up because they truly pushed too far and don't want the public to know the truth. Hopefully someone leaks the numbers.

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Oregon Dems :

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2018/10/kate_brown_appointee_delays_sc.html

Published: Oct. 23, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

And the article even admits it wasn't Brown's choice but the Superintendents.

Pathetic. Women are dying OSR and your party is complacent.

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Oregon Dems :

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2018/10/kate_brown_appointee_delays_sc.html

Published: Oct. 23, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

And the article even admits it wasn't Brown's choice but the Superintendents.

Pathetic. Women are dying OSR and your party is complacent.

It was her appointee and doing this helped Brown out from bad news that could have hurt her in her reelection bid.

What the Texas GOP here is bad but delaying bad news until after the election is something that has been done by both sides

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Oregon Dems :

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2018/10/kate_brown_appointee_delays_sc.html

Published: Oct. 23, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

And the article even admits it wasn't Brown's choice but the Superintendents.

Pathetic. Women are dying OSR and your party is complacent.

It was her appointee and doing this helped Brown out from bad news that could have hurt her in her reelection bid.

What the Texas GOP here is bad but delaying bad news until after the election is something that has been done by both sides

I wasn't aware women were dying due to Brown's superintendents actions but OK.

The fact you believe these situations are comparable is sad but not shocking.

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Why do you call it "Texas GOP" instead of "Texas Department of State Health Services" ?

Maternal mortality measurements are a mess. They often aren't comparable state to state because they are measuring different things. That's certainly the case trying to compare US rate to other countries.

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Why do you call it "Texas GOP" instead of "Texas Department of State Health Services" ?

Maternal mortality measurements are a mess. They often aren't comparable state to state because they are measuring different things. That's certainly the case trying to compare US rate to other countries.

Of course Governor Abbott who is the boss of the head of that department has nothing to do with this decision.

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Why do you call it "Texas GOP" instead of "Texas Department of State Health Services" ?

Maternal mortality measurements are a mess. They often aren't comparable state to state because they are measuring different things. That's certainly the case trying to compare US rate to other countries.

So why is Texas's nearly ten times California's?

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Why do you call it "Texas GOP" instead of "Texas Department of State Health Services" ?

Maternal mortality measurements are a mess. They often aren't comparable state to state because they are measuring different things. That's certainly the case trying to compare US rate to other countries.

So why is Texas's nearly ten times California's?

If you are using comparable measures it almost certainly isn't.  Like I said, the stats on this are all over the place.  Different sources, methods, and definitions provide different results.  That's one of the issues the DSHS said it wants to address before it releases the data, that it doesn't come out with something misleading.

Here's from CA Dept of Public Health. Most recent figure for CA according to this is 12.8, not 4.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DMCAH/Pages/CA-PMSS.aspx

On Texas:

To correct the statistics, the Texas Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Task Force, which had been established to study the maternal mortality rate issue in 2013, cross-referenced death certificates, birth certificates and a year’s worth of medical records for all 147 women in the state’s records. They found that, in fact, there were 56 deaths that fell under the definition of maternal mortality — any pregnancy-related death while a woman is pregnant or within 42 days of giving birth, excluding accidental or incidental causes such as car crashes or homicide.

After all of the data-collection errors were excluded, Texas’s 2012 maternal mortality rate was corrected from 38.4 deaths per 100,000 live births to 14.6 per 100,000 live births.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/11/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-was-unbelievably-high-now-we-know-why/

Note though this is 42 days, rather than a year as in the California numbers. So I don't know if there's comparable figures anywhere using the same standard.

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Why do you call it "Texas GOP" instead of "Texas Department of State Health Services" ?

Maternal mortality measurements are a mess. They often aren't comparable state to state because they are measuring different things. That's certainly the case trying to compare US rate to other countries.

So why is Texas's nearly ten times California's?

If you are using comparable measures it almost certainly isn't.  Like I said, the stats on this are all over the place.  Different sources, methods, and definitions provide different results.  That's one of the issues the DSHS said it wants to address before it releases the data, that it doesn't come out with something misleading.

Here's from CA Dept of Public Health. Most recent figure for CA according to this is 12.8, not 4.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DMCAH/Pages/CA-PMSS.aspx

On Texas:

To correct the statistics, the Texas Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Task Force, which had been established to study the maternal mortality rate issue in 2013, cross-referenced death certificates, birth certificates and a year’s worth of medical records for all 147 women in the state’s records. They found that, in fact, there were 56 deaths that fell under the definition of maternal mortality — any pregnancy-related death while a woman is pregnant or within 42 days of giving birth, excluding accidental or incidental causes such as car crashes or homicide.

After all of the data-collection errors were excluded, Texas’s 2012 maternal mortality rate was corrected from 38.4 deaths per 100,000 live births to 14.6 per 100,000 live births.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/11/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-was-unbelievably-high-now-we-know-why/

Note though this is 42 days, rather than a year as in the California numbers. So I don't know if there's comparable figures anywhere using the same standard.

There are legit problems with this data and comparisons between states (including allegations that pregnant at time of death was set as the first/default option in a drop-down menu for Texas coroners and accusations that California is manipulating their own data to get an undercount).  However, there have been enough interviews with pregnant women who nearly died and husbands of pregnant women who did die to suggest something about the US maternal care system needs fundamental improvement.  It also doesn't seem to be purely class or language barrier or education based.  One of the cases I remember most vividly involved a NICU nurse who died giving birth.  Her husband was a medical doctor.   

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Why do you call it "Texas GOP" instead of "Texas Department of State Health Services" ?

Maternal mortality measurements are a mess. They often aren't comparable state to state because they are measuring different things. That's certainly the case trying to compare US rate to other countries.

So why is Texas's nearly ten times California's?

If you are using comparable measures it almost certainly isn't.  Like I said, the stats on this are all over the place.  Different sources, methods, and definitions provide different results.  That's one of the issues the DSHS said it wants to address before it releases the data, that it doesn't come out with something misleading.

Here's from CA Dept of Public Health. Most recent figure for CA according to this is 12.8, not 4.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DMCAH/Pages/CA-PMSS.aspx

On Texas:

To correct the statistics, the Texas Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Task Force, which had been established to study the maternal mortality rate issue in 2013, cross-referenced death certificates, birth certificates and a year’s worth of medical records for all 147 women in the state’s records. They found that, in fact, there were 56 deaths that fell under the definition of maternal mortality — any pregnancy-related death while a woman is pregnant or within 42 days of giving birth, excluding accidental or incidental causes such as car crashes or homicide.

After all of the data-collection errors were excluded, Texas’s 2012 maternal mortality rate was corrected from 38.4 deaths per 100,000 live births to 14.6 per 100,000 live births.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/11/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-was-unbelievably-high-now-we-know-why/

Note though this is 42 days, rather than a year as in the California numbers. So I don't know if there's comparable figures anywhere using the same standard.

There are legit problems with this data and comparisons between states (including allegations that pregnant at time of death was set as the first/default option in a drop-down menu for Texas coroners and accusations that California is manipulating their own data to get an undercount).  However, there have been enough interviews with pregnant women who nearly died and husbands of pregnant women who did die to suggest something about the US maternal care system needs fundamental improvement.  It also doesn't seem to be purely class or language barrier or education based.  One of the cases I remember most vividly involved a NICU nurse who died giving birth.  Her husband was a medical doctor.   

CA's rate went down over 2/3 after a law over a decade ago that increased preparedness/information for doctors and nurses.

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Oregon Dems :

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2018/10/kate_brown_appointee_delays_sc.html

Published: Oct. 23, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

And the article even admits it wasn't Brown's choice but the Superintendents.

Pathetic. Women are dying OSR and your party is complacent.

Not only complacent, but actually complicit.

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Oh yeah. I was talking with someone who had given birth under Norway's communist health care system over a lunch of rats and old shoes since social democracy=socialism= communism=no food and they said that banning abortion and forcing ten year olds to give birth was a great idea for infant mortality reduction.