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« on: September 14, 2022, 01:27:15 PM »

Kemp (R) 50%
Abrams (D) 48%

Kemp fav 50/43
Abrams fav 47/46

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3855
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2022, 01:45:40 PM »

Abrams is closing the gap. I’ve seen a lot of chatter about how crosstabs are underestimating the percentage of the vote that will be women. Apparently women have made up at least 55% of the vote in every general election since at least 2016. I can’t say she’ll win but y’all saying she’s going to lose by 5+ points are wrong. Again.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2022, 06:29:29 PM »

Abrams is closing the gap. I’ve seen a lot of chatter about how crosstabs are underestimating the percentage of the vote that will be women. Apparently women have made up at least 55% of the vote in every general election since at least 2016. I can’t say she’ll win but y’all saying she’s going to lose by 5+ points are wrong. Again.

I want to trust you on this. You were right about Georgia in 2020 after all.

But do you happen to have any insight on the ground for the Senate race too? Do you think either candidate could win without a runoff? And if so, who actually looks favored right now?
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2022, 05:28:12 AM »

Kemp will win by more than 2. I GUARANTEE that.

I can live with Kemp winning - he (somewhat) did the right thing in 2020 and in that regard can be trusted with election results in the future and he has been alright as Governor.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2022, 11:15:13 AM »
« Edited: September 15, 2022, 09:31:19 PM by Adam Griffin »

Abrams is closing the gap. I’ve seen a lot of chatter about how crosstabs are underestimating the percentage of the vote that will be women. Apparently women have made up at least 55% of the vote in every general election since at least 2016. I can’t say she’ll win but y’all saying she’s going to lose by 5+ points are wrong. Again.

I want to trust you on this. You were right about Georgia in 2020 after all.

But do you happen to have any insight on the ground for the Senate race too? Do you think either candidate could win without a runoff? And if so, who actually looks favored right now?

The stats are accurate and have been the case in all but 2 elections (2002 & 2006) in the 21st century (while the 2014 data is inexplicably missing from the website's ZIP file now, I doubt it dropped below 55% even if midterms are where it tended to occur in previous cycles & given the overall cycle/black registration efforts in 2008 & beyond):

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2000 55.43% F, 44.57% M
2002 54.09% F, 45.91% M
2004 56.00% F, 44.00% M
2006 54.15% F, 45.85% M
2008 56.24% F, 43.76% M
2010 55.08% F, 44.92% M
2012 56.44% F, 43.57% M
2014 N/A IN GA-SOS FILE
2016 56.39% F, 43.48% M
2018 55.79% F, 44.07% M
2020 55.35% F, 44.45% M

To be fair, however, the reason for this is entirely due to the fact that 1 in 4 otherwise eligible black male voters in GA are in prison, on probation or otherwise disenfranchised from the voting process (females comprised 63% of the black vote in 2018 & 61% in 2020).

After all, ask yourself: why should GA have a half-million fewer voters than NC of all places (despite 200-300k more people) - especially and after AVR was implemented here and not there?



EDIT: I ran the black versus non-black gender figures for 2018 & 2020 (based on VR turnout stats from those elections), and what you end up with is basically a "normal" gender distribution among non-black voters in GA - "normal" being organic gender balance plus a point or two given that women typically outlive men by several years and older voters have disproportionate turnout compared to younger groups. Here's the average for the two elections:

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AVERAGE OF 2018 & 2020 GENERALS

Black 61.92% F, 37.98% M
Other         53.08% F, 46.74% M

INDIVIDUAL BREAKDOWNS

2018-Black 62.85% F, 37.07% M
2020-Black 60.98% F, 38.89% M
2018-Other 52.92% F, 46.92% M
2020-Other 53.23% F, 46.55% M

If Dobbs is going to have an impact, it'll likely have to show up among the latter group. Georgia's gender imbalance at the polls is based on the aforementioned criminal justice imbalance, so the point of this is just to caution against being too excited about such figures: after all, the electorate was basically 56% female in 2018. All things otherwise equal, it'd probably take a 57-58% female electorate for an Abrams win - and given we're probably on track for 4.5m vote turnout in November, it becomes increasingly difficult to massage such an advantageous imbalance into reality.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2022, 11:32:53 AM »

Abrams is closing the gap. I’ve seen a lot of chatter about how crosstabs are underestimating the percentage of the vote that will be women. Apparently women have made up at least 55% of the vote in every general election since at least 2016. I can’t say she’ll win but y’all saying she’s going to lose by 5+ points are wrong. Again.
Quinnipac is a notoriously bad poll so I would definitely not make ant conclusions on the basis of a Quinnipac poll. Kemp wins by 5-7 points.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2022, 12:18:29 PM »

Abrams is closing the gap. I’ve seen a lot of chatter about how crosstabs are underestimating the percentage of the vote that will be women. Apparently women have made up at least 55% of the vote in every general election since at least 2016. I can’t say she’ll win but y’all saying she’s going to lose by 5+ points are wrong. Again.
Quinnipac is a notoriously bad poll so I would definitely not make ant conclusions on the basis of a Quinnipac poll. Kemp wins by 5-7 points.

A lot can change in 6-8 weeks, but Quinnipiac's September poll of GA in 2020 showed Biden +3: perfectly in line with relevant margins of error and less of a miss than most at that time that did multiple surveys over the latter portion of the cycle.

And yes, their last poll showed an insane Biden +7 in early October - but let's also not forget that GOLD STANDARD Trafalgar showed Trump +5 literally days before the election and with a ton of the vote already cast by mail and in-person.

Seeing a PPP GA poll would be nice: of the major players, it was the most consistent and consistently-accurate of the cycle for the state.
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