UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[Battista Minola 1616]

After a full fourteen hours, the tweet where the UK Prime Minister talks about "the UK's modern slavery system" is still up. I suppose this also classifies as thinking voters are morons? I just have no words.

Some random cabinet minister is going to start bleating about 'battlers' and 'the Mortgage Belt' next.

Bogans in the mortgage belt are the key to the classic bellwether electorate of Dartford. They are against an Indigenous Voice [i.e. devolution, because Indigenous = Celtic] but they bought into Mediscare after seeing Jeremy Hunt's performance.

[Earthling]

After a full fourteen hours, the tweet where the UK Prime Minister talks about "the UK's modern slavery system" is still up. I suppose this also classifies as thinking voters are morons? I just have no words.

Sadly, a lot of voters are morons. So, they are right.

[Battista Minola 1616]

After a full fourteen hours, the tweet where the UK Prime Minister talks about "the UK's modern slavery system" is still up. I suppose this also classifies as thinking voters are morons? I just have no words.

Sadly, a lot of voters are morons. So, they are right.

Maybe voters who keep voting for them after this stunt (on top of everything else), sure.

[Earthling]

After a full fourteen hours, the tweet where the UK Prime Minister talks about "the UK's modern slavery system" is still up. I suppose this also classifies as thinking voters are morons? I just have no words.

Sadly, a lot of voters are morons. So, they are right.

Maybe voters who keep voting for them after this stunt (on top of everything else), sure.

That is what the Conservatives are hoping for. This is playing the voters so they forget who has *d them over for years.

[GoTfan]

lmao this is like when the worst excesses of the Australian right try to make dumb American culture wars a thing

We're through the looking glass here, people.

I think that the concept of "cultural cringe" can now safely be retired by Australians.

We never had much of a sense of it, to be honest.

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After a full fourteen hours, the tweet where the UK Prime Minister talks about "the UK's modern slavery system" is still up. I suppose this also classifies as thinking voters are morons? I just have no words.

Sark abolished feudalism in 2008, so the UK is very modern.

[Coldstream]

After a full fourteen hours, the tweet where the UK Prime Minister talks about "the UK's modern slavery system" is still up. I suppose this also classifies as thinking voters are morons? I just have no words.

Sark abolished feudalism in 2008, so the UK is very modern.

Sark isn’t part of the UK.

[afleitch]

It's all very strange. There's been next to no actual media coverage/saturation of 'people in boats'. Not even on Twitter. Certainly in comparison to the Sangatte reporting a few years back.

The government has decided this is a problem, that a 'showdown' is needed...before it's in the public consciousness. Not to say it won't be, but there's a weird disconnect.

[Silent Hunter]

We know that, but that's why it's an awful tweet. It's George W Bush levels of bad.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

The first people we need to deport are these moronic Australian political advisors.

Given the UK's getting our slogans ~9 years late, I eagerly await Rishi/Boris/Leader TBD spending the entire general election campaign screeching about Jobs and Growth. I wonder if they can top Turnbull accidentally quoting slogans from Veep (continuity and change!)

Bogans in the mortgage belt are the key to the classic bellwether electorate of Dartford. They are against an Indigenous Voice [i.e. devolution, because Indigenous = Celtic] but they bought into Mediscare after seeing Jeremy Hunt's performance.

Inside the Teal Wave: How Climate Independents flipped Kensington & Chelsea with Ben Goldsmith (?)'s money

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It's all very strange. There's been next to no actual media coverage/saturation of 'people in boats'. Not even on Twitter. Certainly in comparison to the Sangatte reporting a few years back.

The government has decided this is a problem, that a 'showdown' is needed...before it's in the public consciousness. Not to say it won't be, but there's a weird disconnect.

It happens that an unusually high proportion of both Conservative Party members and journalists for national broadcasters/publications live in Kent.

[Torrain]

Braverman sent out a Tory fundraising email this morning:



Which has triggered a round of criticism from both the civil service, and Tory ministers - with a number of suggestions from both (all anonymous, apart from the head of the FDA civil service trade union) that she may have broken the ministerial code, section 5 in particular.

That section states that "Ministers must uphold the political impartiality of the Civil Service", and adds: “Ministers should be professional in their working relationships with the Civil Service and treat all those with whom they come into contact with consideration and respect.”

Rishi Sunak's press secretary has now claimed that the fundraising email, which carries Braverman's signature, was not seen by the Home Secretary before it was released.

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I know it's unlikely, but if Braverman has to resign, from the same office, for two email-related breaches of the ministerial code, in under 6 months, it'll be quite something...

Politico writeup of the story here

[Battista Minola 1616]

Bogans in the mortgage belt are the key to the classic bellwether electorate of Dartford. They are against an Indigenous Voice [i.e. devolution, because Indigenous = Celtic] but they bought into Mediscare after seeing Jeremy Hunt's performance.

Inside the Teal Wave: How Climate Independents flipped Kensington & Chelsea with Ben Goldsmith (?)'s money

Speaking of people named Goldsmith, the Teal Wave was foreshadowed in Richmond Park in 2016 surely?

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Bogans in the mortgage belt are the key to the classic bellwether electorate of Dartford. They are against an Indigenous Voice [i.e. devolution, because Indigenous = Celtic] but they bought into Mediscare after seeing Jeremy Hunt's performance.

Inside the Teal Wave: How Climate Independents flipped Kensington & Chelsea with Ben Goldsmith (?)'s money

Speaking of people named Goldsmith, the Teal Wave was foreshadowed in Richmond Park in 2016 surely?

More akin to the No Aircraft Noise party giving the Deputy Premier-elect a right old scare in Marrickville '95.
(Ben Goldsmith felt like a decent enough stand-in for Simon Holmes à Court, in case context is lacking)

[Blair]

The weird thing is they did this last year with another bill which they eventually forced through and there’s a v good chance we’ll end up next year in the same position; until you fix the Home Office and tackle the global factors (something that is hard to do in a year) it’s difficult to see how the numbers fall.

[CumbrianLefty]

After a full fourteen hours, the tweet where the UK Prime Minister talks about "the UK's modern slavery system" is still up. I suppose this also classifies as thinking voters are morons? I just have no words.

Sadly, a lot of voters are morons. So, they are right.

Maybe voters who keep voting for them after this stunt (on top of everything else), sure.

That is what the Conservatives are hoping for. This is playing the voters so they forget who has *d them over for years.

Fortunately, there is little chance of them being successful in this.

[Torrain]

Johnson has given testimony to the Raab bullying inquiry, and bried out to the Telegraph that he personally intervened to warn Raab about his behaviour when he was PM.

Understand that I don't want to downplay the allegations against Raab, at all. But. I do wonder whether this particular intervention might have something to do with Raab being one of the first to back Sunak last summer, and helping chair both his attempts at the leadership...

[CumbrianLefty]

Yes, to state the obvious it isn't exactly the most credible source is it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Ferrets, sacks, etc.

[afleitch]

Ferrets, sacks, etc.

Unfortunately we're all stuck in the sack with them.

[JimJamUK]

The weird thing is they did this last year with another bill which they eventually forced through and there’s a v good chance we’ll end up next year in the same position; until you fix the Home Office and tackle the global factors (something that is hard to do in a year) it’s difficult to see how the numbers fall.

And until you get the numbers down (i.e. negligible), it’s not going to win back loads of voters. All they’re doing at the moment is saying that there’s a massive problem and we are dealing with it, but apparently the previous times they’ve dealt with it didn’t work (but it will this time). Voters are (rightly) not impressed.

[YL]

We know that, but that's why it's an awful tweet. It's George W Bush levels of bad.

The tweet is awful for a number of reasons.  Of course part of it is its embarrassing wording ("the UK's modern slavery system") but if you try and work out what it is actually trying to say then a natural conclusion, as raised by Stephen Flynn at PMQs yesterday, is that people who are illegally trafficked here will not be able to get help from the authorities.  If that's actually the case, and Sunak did not deny it, then it's an utterly disgraceful policy, even by the standards of what Braverman comes up with.

(Though from what I've seen of his PMQs style I'm not sure that much can be read into Sunak not answering a question from Flynn...)

[CumbrianLefty]

The truth is, many Tories don't *want* the boats "problem" to be solved.

[Torrain]

Johnson has nominated Paul Dacre for a peerage in his resignation honours list.

Dacre was blocked from receiving one last autumn, so this seems to be Johnson's way of trying to make Sunak choose between being attacked by the Mail and the right of the party (for blocking parts of his honours list), or by the opposition and much of the rest of the media (for overruling the recommendation of the Lords appointment commission for the first time since Johnson forced Lebedev into the Lords, and creating a media baron in the most literal sense).

[CumbrianLefty]

WTAF was Fiona Bruce up to regarding Stanley Johnson in last night's Question Time?