UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[Blair]

There’s some chat about the Toad/Mr Blobby returning but he still has the highly damaging partygate hearings- which will be in public and which might lead to a vote about sanctioning him.

If there were 100 MPs backing him in Autumn you’d still need to find another 70 who would vote to get rid of Sunak in a no-confidence ballot and some of those 100 wouldn’t be safe anti Sunak votes.

I wouldn’t put it past them to panic but expect it to end up like the panics to remove Gordon in 09/10.

[Chickpeas]

Looks like a reshuffle is on the cards for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1622700764312350721

[Torrain]

Looks like a reshuffle is on the cards for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1622700764312350721

Huh - that’s interesting.

Wonder what happens to Raab. If he stays in place, it’s a fairly clear vote of confidence - which could backfire if he’s then forced to dismiss him in the next few weeks, after the bullying report is released.

[LabourJersey]

There’s some chat about the Toad/Mr Blobby returning but he still has the highly damaging partygate hearings- which will be in public and which might lead to a vote about sanctioning him.

If there were 100 MPs backing him in Autumn you’d still need to find another 70 who would vote to get rid of Sunak in a no-confidence ballot and some of those 100 wouldn’t be safe anti Sunak votes.

I wouldn’t put it past them to panic but expect it to end up like the panics to remove Gordon in 09/10.

I saw a Daily Mail article claiming this exact same thing. I just don't see Boris actually pulling it off (and I certainly don't see him turning the election around on a dime like his supporters imagine).

[Blair]

I think with Raab they’re waiting for the report and will do this reshuffle in a way that allows them to possibly replace him without having to re-arrange the deck.

Greg Hands rumoured to be party chair which makes sense as he regularly tweets out the various CCHQ graphics which is imo the job of party chair.

Amanda Milling was my favourite- she was particularly miserable doing it and made a very laughable intervention that ‘Sir Keir must prove he is strong and opposed to racism and sack Jeremy’ about 10 minutes before he did- never set a test your opponent can meet use to be basic. How standards have slipped…

[afleitch]

So he's rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic while it's on the ocean floor.

[Torrain]

The new departments:

Excuse the self-aggrandisement, but that’s the risk when you get the news straight from the horse’s mouth.

[CumbrianLefty]

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1622641270572154880

Ah, the Truss effect

[YL]

He's given Lee Anderson a job.

(Not a very important one, I think, but still.)

[Torrain]

Yeah…

Given his more colourful commentary (see benefits, food banks, Eddie Izzard, Romani travellers, indentured servitude, etc), it sure is a choice.

I know the PM thinks he appeals to “Red Wall voters” (I’m not convinced, seems like a patronising attempt to find a Poundstore equivalent to Johnson’s populist vibe), but I just can’t wrap my head around appointing him.

At some point in the next month or two, something he says, old or new, will come back to bite him, and Sunak will probably be forced to ditch him. The man made jokes in the past month about nurses being too well-paid to need food banks, and doxed one of his own staffers on Twitter (during an attempt to ‘own the libs’, no less), he’s a ticking time bomb.

Not sure whether it’s an unforced error, or Sunak really thinks he has to do stuff like this to keep the backbenches in line.

Edit: short Guardian write-up for the uninitiated

[Sestak]

At the very least, the Brits have finally done away with the grammatical abomination that is the "Department of Digital, Culture, Media, and Sport".

[YL]

My former MP (when he could be bothered) convicted of expenses fraud: Guardian story

[TheTide]

My former MP (when he could be bothered) convicted of expenses fraud: Guardian story

Oliver Coppard would have been quite a different MP wouldn't he? Quite possibly he'd be a current frontbencher.

[YL]

LOL, how would an SNP Leader of the Opposition work?

https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1623430995075637248

[Хahar 🤔]

Presumably it would work a lot like it worked in Canada after the 1993 election.

[Pericles]

Hopefully in such a meltdown given that almost all their targets are Tory seats the LibDems can make huge net gains and become the Opposition instead.

Realistically the core right wing vote isn't that split at the moment so the Tories will be able to crawl back to maybe a mere landslide defeat or even slightly better rather than a wipe out, even without other improvements for them.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It doesn't matter as he doesn't, but there are certain... er... biographical inconsistencies in Anderson's various accounts of his life to date. Not the Full George Santos, I should add, but a few things that logically result in a 'hmm'.

[Torrain]

The member for Ashfield also seems a tad pally with some old fashioned National Front types in his constituency, according to Private Eye:

[warandwar]

https://twitter.com/KHarveyProctor/status/1610004702132830208

toryism.txt
i hate Heath
i am more of a racist than him, for one
he didn't meet some absurd etiquette
he hurt my personal ambition, but i still humiliated him
no, i did not rape and murder a single child
i respect Heath

[Torrain]

To be fair, this isn’t really about Heath. It’s about Tom Watson, who spread the lies about men like Proctor and Heath, after they were told to him by Carl Beech.

Heath just happens to be the most prominent of the accused, so he makes a useful figurehead if you’re going to go on the warpath against Tom Watson getting a peerage (which is a perfectly legitimate bone to pick - with the Lords Appointment Commission, and Keir Starmer himself, for nominating him to the Lords in the first place).

[TheTide]

Interesting thread this.

https://twitter.com/LeeDavidEvansUK/status/1623413809049227266?s=20&t=O4Yd7s...

[TheTide]

Mr O'Mara gets four years.

[CumbrianLefty]

LOL, how would an SNP Leader of the Opposition work?

https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1623430995075637248

Labour almost certainly aren't getting 500 MPs - but if they somehow *did*, there's no way on earth that the SNP would still get 50 or even anything close. It would be a major surprise if most if not all of the Scottish "central belt" didn't go red in that unlikely scenario.

[Coldstream]

Yeah if we do get 50% nationally in the next election, we’ll probably be the largest party in Scotland again - at least in terms of seats.

[TheTide]

Scotland has been doing its own thing in general elections for at least half a century. Even if you put aside the SNP, the swing between Labour and the Tories has often been vastly different to that in the rest of GB.