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« Reply #1525 on: October 19, 2022, 11:12:07 AM »

Braverman: "The business of government relies upon people accepting responsibility for their mistakes. Pretending we haven't made mistakes, carrying on as if everyone can't see that we have made them, and hoping that things will magically come right is not serious politics. I have made a mistake; I accept responsibility; I resign."

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« Reply #1526 on: October 19, 2022, 11:12:19 AM »

Oh - man. It’s not even a done deal.

Shapps might have the entire Truss premiership in the palm of his hand.

Of course Shapps is one of those she was briefing against furiously over the weekend, was a key Sunak backer and is not really a member of the Cameroon set.

The problem is that some people seem to think Hunt is some master strategist - literally Bismarck, the Iron Chancellor. There is in fact no evidence from his career to date to suggest that this is the case and I am very confident that his operation will unravel in the coming hours/days.
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« Reply #1527 on: October 19, 2022, 11:13:02 AM »

Meanwhile, Chris Skidmore says that he won't support the government on fracking tonight and is prepared to lose the whip.
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« Reply #1528 on: October 19, 2022, 11:13:16 AM »

Who loaded these balls into the 2022 Bingo Machine? "Kate Bush gets to number 1" was odd enough as is!
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« Reply #1529 on: October 19, 2022, 11:13:51 AM »

A Conservative former minister is going to vote against the government in the fracking/confidence motion.
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« Reply #1530 on: October 19, 2022, 11:14:49 AM »

Mark Menzies also not voting with the government.

Edit: And Tracey Crouch.
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« Reply #1531 on: October 19, 2022, 11:16:53 AM »

There are rumors that Shapps may also be bringing three new ministers into the Home Office with him; Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox.
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« Reply #1532 on: October 19, 2022, 11:17:40 AM »

So there's no way that today's implosions are enough for the government to actually collapse tonight… right?
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« Reply #1533 on: October 19, 2022, 11:19:07 AM »

There are rumors that Shapps may also be bringing three new ministers into the Home Office with him; Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox.

For a minute there I did actually think these might be random Tory MP’s of whom I’d never heard.
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« Reply #1534 on: October 19, 2022, 11:20:32 AM »

Angela Richardson makes it four not voting with the government.
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« Reply #1535 on: October 19, 2022, 11:22:14 AM »

Meanwhile, Chris Skidmore says that he won't support the government on fracking tonight and is prepared to lose the whip.

Interestingly he was one of the co-writers of the infamous Britannia Unchained (along with the late Chancellor, Truss herself, Patel and Dominic Raab - i guess he got the inevitable Bill Rodgers role).
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« Reply #1536 on: October 19, 2022, 11:27:55 AM »



You don't f**k with the Tofu lobby and expect to survive.
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« Reply #1537 on: October 19, 2022, 11:30:52 AM »

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« Reply #1538 on: October 19, 2022, 11:41:18 AM »

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« Reply #1539 on: October 19, 2022, 11:41:37 AM »

The Tories are obviously fxcked under the current leadership, but even if they managed to find a saint to lead them, it won't help. Basically every Tory of any significance is under the delusion that just one more attempt to undermine their enemies, just one more backstabbing of their friends, just one more defenestration of someone their don't like will make the voters think "well, now that [insert politician here] is gone, I'm coming back." It won't. The completely psycho way they're going about doesn't make them look like reasonable statesmen getting their hands dirty in a desperate situation when the Party needs to be saved, it makes them look like pigs rolling in the mud and enjoying it.
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« Reply #1540 on: October 19, 2022, 11:46:09 AM »

Isn’t Grant Shapps supposedly one of the biggest proponents of Truss’s ousting? His appointment is both hilarious and makes sense.
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« Reply #1541 on: October 19, 2022, 11:49:29 AM »

Isn’t Grant Shapps supposedly one of the biggest proponents of Truss’s ousting? His appointment is both hilarious and makes sense.

It does match the Regency narrative.
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« Reply #1542 on: October 19, 2022, 11:49:51 AM »

I strongly suspect there's more to this than meets the eye.
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« Reply #1543 on: October 19, 2022, 11:51:57 AM »

I strongly suspect there's more to this than meets the eye.

You may be on to something:

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« Reply #1544 on: October 19, 2022, 11:57:59 AM »

Reports that a column of tanks is entering London, military coup underway, BBC Broadcasting Housr occupied by marines around four this afternoon. Interim Government of National Salvation to be announced this evening, 10pm curfew and suspension of constitution to be announced too.
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« Reply #1545 on: October 19, 2022, 11:58:36 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2022, 12:13:10 PM by Хahar 🤔 »

If the prime minister can get The Spreadsheet on her side then Tory MPs will be powerless to stop her.
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« Reply #1546 on: October 19, 2022, 11:59:00 AM »

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« Reply #1547 on: October 19, 2022, 12:03:15 PM »

You may be on to something:


The Justice Secretary has also pulled out of his ITV interview tonight.
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« Reply #1548 on: October 19, 2022, 12:12:12 PM »

Slipped through the chaos earlier today but important:

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« Reply #1549 on: October 19, 2022, 12:22:56 PM »



I almost wonder how many Tories would be okay with surrendering power at this point. They are pretty much assured of losing the next election, so you might as well start the timer to when they return to power now as opposed to starting the timer in 2024. There could also be some more moderate Conservatives that might see an election loss as an opportunity to reboot the party and that they should just get along with that process now.
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