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« Reply #1325 on: October 17, 2022, 10:16:13 AM »
Quote from: brucejoel99 on October 17, 2022, 10:15:23 AM
Hoyle just called Mordaunt Prime Minister 💀
Freudian slip of the year.
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« Reply #1326 on: October 17, 2022, 10:22:46 AM »
“Is the Prime Minister on her way to the Palace?”
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« Reply #1327 on: October 17, 2022, 10:24:34 AM »
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« Reply #1328 on: October 17, 2022, 10:26:01 AM »
Ok - there's something weird happening. Truss left Downing Street 30 minutes ago, and it's been confirmed that she's been in the Palace of Westminster, but hasn't been seen since. Mordaunt has suggested that something regrettable has happened, and that she asked to disclose the reason, but was denied.

Mordaunt has also said Truss may not come to the Commons at all today, pitching up tomorrow instead. Several times, Mordaunt has said that she "hopes" Truss will be in the Commons later, but can't guarantee it.

When asked if Truss had gone to the Palace, she deflected, rather than denying it. I doubt that's the reason (Charles is in Aberdeen today), but Mordaunt is being cagey in the way that only drives speculation.
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« Reply #1329 on: October 17, 2022, 10:26:40 AM »
Quote from: Torrain on October 17, 2022, 10:26:01 AM
Ok - there's something weird happening. Truss left Downing Street 30 minutes ago, and it's been confirmed that she's been in the Palace of Westminster, but hasn't been seen since. Mordaunt has suggested that something regrettable has happened, and that she asked to disclose the reason, but was denied.

Mordaunt has also said Truss may not come to the Commons at all today, pitching up tomorrow instead. Several times, Mordaunt has said that she "hopes" Truss will be in the Commons later, but can't guarantee it.

When asked if Truss had gone to the Palace, she deflected, rather than denying it.

Truss has killed a second monarch.
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« Reply #1330 on: October 17, 2022, 10:29:28 AM »
Truss in the Commons now.
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« Reply #1331 on: October 17, 2022, 10:29:57 AM »
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Quote from: Torrain on October 17, 2022, 10:26:01 AM
Ok - there's something weird happening. Truss left Downing Street 30 minutes ago, and it's been confirmed that she's been in the Palace of Westminster, but hasn't been seen since. Mordaunt has suggested that something regrettable has happened, and that she asked to disclose the reason, but was denied.

Mordaunt has also said Truss may not come to the Commons at all today, pitching up tomorrow instead. Several times, Mordaunt has said that she "hopes" Truss will be in the Commons later, but can't guarantee it.

When asked if Truss had gone to the Palace, she deflected, rather than denying it.

Truss has killed a second monarch.

Maybe Charles has gone full House of Cards, Series 2 and has decided to fire Truss against constitutional convention.
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« Reply #1332 on: October 17, 2022, 10:30:07 AM »
Hearing from the PM within the next 24 hours is rather interesting since neither today nor tomorrow is Wednesday:




Quote from: Torrain on October 17, 2022, 10:26:01 AM
Ok - there's something weird happening. Truss left Downing Street 30 minutes ago, and it's been confirmed that she's been in the Palace of Westminster, but hasn't been seen since. Mordaunt has suggested that something regrettable has happened, and that she asked to disclose the reason, but was denied.

Mordaunt has also said Truss may not come to the Commons at all today, pitching up tomorrow instead. Several times, Mordaunt has said that she "hopes" Truss will be in the Commons later, but can't guarantee it.

When asked if Truss had gone to the Palace, she deflected, rather than denying it. I doubt that's the reason (Charles is in Aberdeen today), but Mordaunt is being cagey in the way that only drives speculation.

Weirder still is that the "genuine reason" excuse didn't even pop up 'til halfway through the statement…
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« Reply #1333 on: October 17, 2022, 10:32:13 AM »
Truss is sitting behind Mordaunt, smiling vacantly while Mordaunt answers questions for her. Surreal - even if she has dispersed speculation by showing up.
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« Reply #1334 on: October 17, 2022, 10:39:48 AM »
Liz Truss blinks less than once a second challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
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« Reply #1335 on: October 17, 2022, 10:45:51 AM »
Quote from: Torrain on October 17, 2022, 10:32:13 AM
Truss is sitting behind Mordaunt, smiling vacantly while Mordaunt answers questions for her. Surreal - even if she has dispersed speculation by showing up.

A soft-coup seems to be in motion, and Truss's actions suggest she didn't know just how few allies she had. Essentially, she's not going to be outlasting that Lettuce.
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« Reply #1336 on: October 17, 2022, 10:46:29 AM »
Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves: “As I regularly say now, I welcome the new Chancellor to his place.”
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« Reply #1337 on: October 17, 2022, 10:51:53 AM »
Reeves: “There is lasting damage which these policy u-turns won’t change. They set fire to everything, now they insist it is all fine. The truth is, an arsonist is still an arsonist, even if he then runs back into the building with a bucket of water”
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« Reply #1338 on: October 17, 2022, 10:58:32 AM »
Truss has now left the chamber. I have to imagine she’s having some sort of mental health episode - I would be if I were in her position.
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« Reply #1339 on: October 17, 2022, 11:00:52 AM »
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« Reply #1340 on: October 17, 2022, 11:05:05 AM »
In terms of seats this would look like this:

557 Labour
  52 SNP
  15 LibDems
    4 PC
    2 Conservatives
    1 Green
  18 North Ireland parties
    1 Other

From Electoral Calculus prediction tool.
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« Reply #1341 on: October 17, 2022, 11:06:10 AM »
Another wild hypothetical - Ed Davey, Leader of the Opposition?
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« Reply #1342 on: October 17, 2022, 11:09:55 AM »
There are no breaks on this train.
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« Reply #1343 on: October 17, 2022, 11:14:30 AM »
Quote from: Torrain on October 17, 2022, 11:06:10 AM
Another wild hypothetical - Ed Davey, Leader of the Opposition?



Why not?
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« Reply #1344 on: October 17, 2022, 11:15:41 AM »
Keep in mind Labour had a 39.5 point lead in early 1996:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_1997_United_Kingdom_general_election#1996
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« Reply #1345 on: October 17, 2022, 11:15:44 AM »
Wild:
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« Reply #1346 on: October 17, 2022, 11:17:20 AM »
So the coup has to come in the next few hours, right? Getting rid of a failed Prime Minister isn't something you want to linger on - there could always be a reason why it can't happen now - bad Vlad pressing the button or whatever.
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« Reply #1347 on: October 17, 2022, 11:17:39 AM »

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« Reply #1348 on: October 17, 2022, 11:18:24 AM »
1. British polling methodology has improved substantially since the 90s
2. The economy was doing *much* better at the time than it is now
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« Reply #1349 on: October 17, 2022, 11:18:38 AM »
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