UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[John Dule]

In all seriousness, she's seriously ill isn't she?

Nah, she’s already dead.

[afleitch]

There's a very real difference in how the two Royal households are communicating health issues. I suspect that the Princess is not well and is recovering. I suspect the illness itself may be of a sensitive nature. But the radio silence has been disastrous because it resulted in this PR disaster which has had the 'Streisand Effect' of blowing up what was gossip and memes into actual news and discussion .

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It has been suggested that she has been/is having 'lots of physio' which for those that know is more revealing than the Kensington Palace sources that briefed it the other week seem to realize. I.e. it will mean having to learn to walk again. That's quite normal after major surgery, but does indicate that.

[YL]

Rumours that a certain Nottinghamshire MP is joining Reform UK.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

It has been suggested that she has been/is having 'lots of physio' which for those that know is more revealing than the Kensington Palace sources that briefed it the other week seem to realize. I.e. it will mean having to learn to walk again. That's quite normal after major surgery, but does indicate that.

What about for those that don’t know about that

[Zinneke]

It has been suggested that she has been/is having 'lots of physio' which for those that know is more revealing than the Kensington Palace sources that briefed it the other week seem to realize. I.e. it will mean having to learn to walk again. That's quite normal after major surgery, but does indicate that.

What about for those that don’t know about that

Womb removal no?

[afleitch]

https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1767135566645092616

The response.

Probably worse than saying nothing at all.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Did they fire their communications person or something ?

[EastAnglianLefty]

I know only obsessives watch it but why do the BBC keep LK as their front person for the big Sunday show?

I heard she is going to host the election coverage and it’s just baffling- she just has a really weird ability to frame everything as terrible for labour, while giving the Conservatives a soft hand in a way that most other broadcasters don’t- I’d prefer Andrew Neil and we all know his politics!

But to be fair, she's also really bad at the basics of interviewing.

[TheTide]

I hadn't heard about LK doing the election coverage. It doesn't seem like a wise move. The Dimblebys had gravitas and were quite universally respected. Jo Coburn (who has done by-elections when the BBC has actually chosen to cover them) would be a better choice.   

[CumbrianLefty]

And all told,  she isn't exactly great either.

Even if only for this one occasion, they could do worse than bring Paxman out of semi-retirement.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Nick Robinson before her was also rather right-wing too, wasn’t he? Though I don’t remember his bias shining through as much as LK’s does.

[EastAnglianLefty]

Robinson was a student Conservative and his political opinions are clearly right of centre, but he's a better interviewer than Kuennsberg is and less likely to believe uncritically what his sources tell him, so he's capable of giving an ill-prepared Cabinet minister a handbagging in a way Kuennsberg simply isn't.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It has been suggested that she has been/is having 'lots of physio' which for those that know is more revealing than the Kensington Palace sources that briefed it the other week seem to realize. I.e. it will mean having to learn to walk again. That's quite normal after major surgery, but does indicate that.

What about for those that don’t know about that

About? Oh. No, simply major surgery (or the sort of complications and follow-up ops that end up counting as the same thing). Just a slightly old-fashioned use of the language there; an habitual one.

[TheTide]

Robinson was a student Conservative and his political opinions are clearly right of centre, but he's a better interviewer than Kuennsberg is and less likely to believe uncritically what his sources tell him, so he's capable of giving an ill-prepared Cabinet minister a handbagging in a way Kuennsberg simply isn't.

He was a 'wet' (back when the term still had a strong meaning) Tory. I believe his factional opponent in the Oxford Tories was none other than John Bercow. Mark Francois was also part of the 'wet' faction. He is another one who has changed his views!

[afleitch]

https://twitter.com/NdomitableNegro/status/1767375689693475003

Funny if true.

[CumbrianLefty]

Government people now openly gaslighting us by claiming that some of the most unequivocally racist and bigoted comments you will ever see were not racist and bigoted, ACTUALLY.

This is where we are, after 14 years of Tory rule. It has so clearly been a roaring success.

[President Johnson]

I just wonder if Kate indeed edited the picture, why did she assume nobody would notice? If it wasn't her, the guys running her social media aren't worth their money.

[GenerationTerrorist]

I'm still confident that there will be GE on 2nd May.

Fair number of Twitter sources stating that Sunak has been meeting Graham Brady (1922 Chairman) this evening. Supposedly about no-confidence letters.

Rwanda Bill is up next week, so I wonder if Sunak will do a "back me or sack me" if the bill is deemed unlawful. Then go on to blame everyone but themselves.

[TheTide]

I'm still confident that there will be GE on 2nd May.

Fair number of Twitter sources stating that Sunak has been meeting Graham Brady (1922 Chairman) this evening. Supposedly about no-confidence letters.

Rwanda Bill is up next week, so I wonder if Sunak will do a "back me or sack me" if the bill is deemed unlawful. Then go on to blame everyone but themselves.

If he's not planning an election on the 2nd of May then he needs to rule it out ASAP (as in as soon as today, or the end of this week at the latest) to keep down the bottlejob accusations. Given his past form, though, he'll probably wait until the end of next week (the end of the plausible window in which it can be announced).

[TheTide]

On that subject, here's quite a piece from The Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26641310/rishi-sunak-warned-off-may-general-election/

The main points are:

- The 1922 Committee has urged Sunak not to go for May. Does this mean that Sunak is seriously considering it?

- At the same time, a minority is urging him to go for it.

- Sunak has been told that he could be in real danger of a coup after the local elections, something which has been talked about for quite a while.

- But here's the best bit by far:

A senior Tory source said: “Early is for the birds and seven months is a long time in politics. Just imagine what would happen if England won the Euros, Team GB had a hat full of gold at the Olympics — the landscape could be very different.”

[Coldstream]

Sunak really has nothing to gain by ruling it out, even if he’s not going to have one in May.

We’ll say he bottled it if he rules it out, so it’s better to just say nothing and act like it’s a media concocted hysteria about an early election.

[CumbrianLefty]

On that subject, here's quite a piece from The Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26641310/rishi-sunak-warned-off-may-general-election/

The main points are:

- The 1922 Committee has urged Sunak not to go for May. Does this mean that Sunak is seriously considering it?

- At the same time, a minority is urging him to go for it.

- Sunak has been told that he could be in real danger of a coup after the local elections, something which has been talked about for quite a while.

- But here's the best bit by far:

A senior Tory source said: “Early is for the birds and seven months is a long time in politics. Just imagine what would happen if England won the Euros, Team GB had a hat full of gold at the Olympics — the landscape could be very different.”

Weekend papers seemed to think the opposite. I think it quite plausible that a minority of Tory MPs are trying to bounce him into it, using the threat of a VoNC if it doesn't happen to get their way. But on past form, the PM might feel justified in calling their bluff.

[EastAnglianLefty]

I think it's clear that opinion is divided in the parliamentary party and neither holding off nor calling an election is going to make everybody fall in line, but it's even more clear that the reason this is an issue is because Tory MPs are increasingly aware that Sunak is terrible at his job.

[Battista Minola 1616]

A senior Tory source said: “Early is for the birds and seven months is a long time in politics. Just imagine what would happen if England won the Euros, Team GB had a hat full of gold at the Olympics — the landscape could be very different.”

As an Italian I feel obliged to remind the Tories of what happened in summer 2021.