UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[Property Representative of the Harold Holt Swimming Centre]

Resignations could be imminent, particularly at a junior level. These polls together with Truss's tour of the radio stations this morning and her and Kwarteng's indications that they are as stubborn as pregnant hens in an ocean of superglue could be something of a straw.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

[brucejoel99]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

Presumably Rishi & [INSERT Rando Tory Backbencher HERE]

[Cassius]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

Sunak and Ben Houchen running for and winning a Tees seat off the back of local kudos.

[CumbrianLefty]

Alex Niven maybe didn't choose the optimum moment to go full on accelerationist, all told.

[DINGO Joe]

Wonder if there is a way via strategic voting to end up with LD as the opposition party.

[OSR stands with Israel]

If Truss is Campbell, who is Manning

[brucejoel99]

Absolutely astonishing to recall that when Keir was elected leader, Labour was 23 pts. behind in the polls; today, they're up 33 pts. That's a swing of 50%!

Things can only get f**king better.

[If my soul was made of stone]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

Charest: David Duguid
Wayne: Lia Nici

(As long as this analogy doesn't mean we get SNP Official Opposition, Christ)

[CumbrianLefty]

Its less than 18 months since Johnson went to Hartlepool during the by-election campaign there and was treated almost as a rock star - "lifelong Labour voters" posing for selfies with him and all, whilst the hapless (and utterly ineptly parachuted) Labour candidate was openly laughed at in the street.

I know things can change fast in politics, but the transformation since mid-2021 takes some beating.

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

Wonder if there is a way via strategic voting to end up with LD as the opposition party.

Seeing the SNP as the official opposition would be hilarious too. Canada 1993

[OSR stands with Israel]

Wonder if there is a way via strategic voting to end up with LD as the opposition party.

Seeing the SNP as the official opposition would be hilarious too. Canada 1993

Who would be Preston Manning here though cause you need that to make 1993 work as well

[If my soul was made of stone]

https://mobile.twitter.com/peterfranklin_/status/1575530158899052546

Broke: Charlie Cook talking about Florida in 2020
Woke: LAB ISLE OF WIGHT

[Wiswylfen]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

Sunak and Ben Houchen running for and winning a Tees seat off the back of local kudos.

About that...

[Sestak]

It's just completely surreal to see the pace of this. Obviously I've seen leaders manage to completely wreck their countries' economies (and their own parties' standing in the process), but I don't recall anything happening close to this fast. Campbell at least had like three months somewhat holding the line before the nosedive. Liz Truss became Prime Minister this month!

[brucejoel99]

Wonder if there is a way via strategic voting to end up with LD as the opposition party.

Seeing the SNP as the official opposition would be hilarious too. Canada 1993

Bloc Caledonia

It's just completely surreal to see the pace of this. Obviously I've seen leaders manage to completely wreck their countries' economies (and their own parties' standing in the process), but I don't recall anything happening close to this fast. Campbell at least had like three months somewhat holding the line before the nosedive. Liz Truss became Prime Minister this month!

To think, it could've been even quicker had government business not come to a rather screeching halt for 11 days.

[Property Representative of the Harold Holt Swimming Centre]

The 15% for Truss as preferred PM is just as amazing/amusing as the voting intentions. Incumbent PMs tend to have an inbuilt advantage on this question, and this poll was conducted when most of the country hadn't seen or heard her and her dazzling media performances in almost a week.

[afleitch]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

Ian Blackford as LoTO...

[Joe Republic]

It's just completely surreal to see the pace of this. Obviously I've seen leaders manage to completely wreck their countries' economies (and their own parties' standing in the process), but I don't recall anything happening close to this fast. Campbell at least had like three months somewhat holding the line before the nosedive. Liz Truss became Prime Minister this month!

And most of this month the government went into stasis while the crown changed hands.  Truss has essentially only been PM for about a week!

[DINGO Joe]

The 15% for Truss as preferred PM is just as amazing/amusing as the voting intentions. Incumbent PMs tend to have an inbuilt advantage on this question, and this poll was conducted when most of the country hadn't seen or heard her and her dazzling media performances in almost a week.

Well, nobody has actually voted for Truss (save for a handful of Con party members) so there's really no attachment to her whatsoever.

[afleitch]

Scene: Truss shakes hands with Queen.

Scratch

'Yup. That's me. You might be wondering how I got here...'

[Property Representative of the Harold Holt Swimming Centre]

The 15% for Truss as preferred PM is just as amazing/amusing as the voting intentions. Incumbent PMs tend to have an inbuilt advantage on this question, and this poll was conducted when most of the country hadn't seen or heard her and her dazzling media performances in almost a week.

Well, nobody has actually voted for Truss (save for a handful of Con party members) so there's really no attachment to her whatsoever.

Major enjoyed very high ratings on becoming PM, even though he was just as unknown as Truss and elected by merely the parliamentary party.

And to be pedantic, no one outside of South West Norfolk can vote for Truss.

[If my soul was made of stone]

Scene: Truss shakes hands with Queen.

Scratch

'Yup. That's me. You might be wondering how I got here...'

[bore]

On discord I've been reminded of a post I wrote in 2019, so I'm going to quote it, partialy to collect accolades, but also to make what I think is a very important point.

This election, 2017, 2015 in Scotland, if they have shown one thing,  have shown that the electorate is incredibly volatile, and prior performance is no indication of future success. All current majorities are like the foolish man who built his house upon the sand, and could disappear tomorrow. Boris Johnson is not beloved now, and his support is conditional, but even if he was and it wasn’t there is no reason at all to doubt that Labour can win easily in 2024. No reason, that is, based on fundamentals and national conditions, plenty based on the track record of the Labour party.

If you consider yourself a serious follower of elections, as I believe most people on here do, you should never ever forget that politics is not a sports league, parties previous victories and vote totals do not accumulate allowing them to build an insurmountable lead. At each and every election their votes start from zero, and each one of those votes has to be earnt anew. This is especially true with the secular trend across western democracies towards increased swings and reduced party loyalties. Even after the biggest landslide, when everything seems most hopeless, there is no majority on earth so large that it necessarily takes 2 or 3 cycles to dislodge.

[mileslunn]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

Jean Charest would be one of the Scottish MPs strongly against independence (doubt any Tories in Scotland survive though) and Elsie Wayne some older female MP who doesn't like gays (she was very homophobic)