Ontario municipal elections (Oct 24)

[adma]

Incidentally, speaking of other jurisdictions, Tory-affiliated Scott Gillingham was just elected Winnipeg mayor by 27.5% (a record low) vs Glen Murray at 25.3%.  (The Pembina Institute sexual harassment reports certainly didn't help Murray.)

[DL]

Incidentally, speaking of other jurisdictions, Tory-affiliated Scott Gillingham was just elected Winnipeg mayor by 27.5% (a record low) vs Glen Murray at 25.3%.  (The Pembina Institute sexual harassment reports certainly didn't help Murray.)

FWIW Glen Murray is one of the most obnoxious, egotistical and insufferable people in the Canadian political world. There is no shortage of people - even on the left - who are quietly happy that he lost because he is such a horrible person!

He has burned so many bridges, he was an Ontario Liberal cabinet minister and the Premier's office had to force him to stay off of all social media because he could not keep his mouth shot and did lots of obvious drink tweeting. He ran for the OLP leadership - came in dead last, took a job with Pembina that apparently was a disaster, then when he got really desperate he ran for the federal Green party leadership in 2020 - and came in dead last again (or close to it). Then facing unemployment, he tried to make a comeback in Winnipeg and now that has also flopped. Its about time he realized that people are just not into him!

[Benjamin Frank]

Incidentally, speaking of other jurisdictions, Tory-affiliated Scott Gillingham was just elected Winnipeg mayor by 27.5% (a record low) vs Glen Murray at 25.3%.  (The Pembina Institute sexual harassment reports certainly didn't help Murray.)

Gillingham was also endorsed by Lloyd Axworthy.

[Hatman 🍁]

This is all stuff you've heard me rail on about in this thread, but I was interviewed by the Citizen about the hurdles progressives have in getting elected as mayor in Ottawa due to amalgamation:

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/deachman-can-ottawa-elect-a-really-progressive-mayor

[mileslunn]

Incidentally, speaking of other jurisdictions, Tory-affiliated Scott Gillingham was just elected Winnipeg mayor by 27.5% (a record low) vs Glen Murray at 25.3%.  (The Pembina Institute sexual harassment reports certainly didn't help Murray.)

Gillingham was also endorsed by Lloyd Axworthy.

It seems in Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, and Winnipeg, you more or less had federal Liberals and Tories unite against NDP candidate.  Exact opposite of provincial politics in Prairies where generally federal NDP + federal Liberals unite behind provincial NDP vs. federal Tories supporting UCP, Saskatchewan Party or Manitoba PCs.

[mileslunn]

Hamilton and Ottawa now have results out, anyone able to do a map for either?

[DL]

It seems in Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, and Winnipeg, you more or less had federal Liberals and Tories unite against NDP candidate.  Exact opposite of provincial politics in Prairies where generally federal NDP + federal Liberals unite behind provincial NDP vs. federal Tories supporting UCP, Saskatchewan Party or Manitoba PCs.

That doesn't quite apply in Winnipeg since Murray has been a Liberal most of his life. He ran federally for the Liberals in 2004 and he was an Ontario Liberal MPP and cabinet minister. He was definitely not "the NDP candidate". In fact most people in the NDP would rather crawl naked over a parking lot strewn with broken glass than vote for him

[adma]

It seems in Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, and Winnipeg, you more or less had federal Liberals and Tories unite against NDP candidate.  Exact opposite of provincial politics in Prairies where generally federal NDP + federal Liberals unite behind provincial NDP vs. federal Tories supporting UCP, Saskatchewan Party or Manitoba PCs.

That doesn't quite apply in Winnipeg since Murray has been a Liberal most of his life. He ran federally for the Liberals in 2004 and he was an Ontario Liberal MPP and cabinet minister. He was definitely not "the NDP candidate". In fact most people in the NDP would rather crawl naked over a parking lot strewn with broken glass than vote for him

I thought Murray was NDP-affiliated during his original Winnipeg mayoralty?  (Provincially, at least, as that was the big-tent non-Tory allegiance of convenience.  In fact, his choosing to run for the federal Liberals in '04 threw some people for a loop.)

Also, I'm not sure how precisely Gil Penalosa fits the "NDP candidate" mold, except by default-option-of-convenience within your usual-suspect wards--it seems to me that he was positioning himself as a "planning progressive" sans partisanship (even more than Jennifer Keesmaat in '18, who carried more of a yuppie-Liberal cast).  If anyone had a "NDP candidate" feel, it was Chloe Brown--but what held her back was that Penalosa had been effectively "pre-anointed"...

[mileslunn]

Here is Hamilton



And Ottawa



What is striking is in both, the progressive candidate dominated the old city pre-amalgamation while right of centre one dominated the newly added parts in the suburbs and rural parts.  Only reason Howarth won is about half of Hamilton's population lives in old city whereas in Ottawa it is only around 1/3.

[Hatman 🍁]

Better map of the Ottawa results https://twitter.com/michaelwbuettel/status/1586155873583276032?t=2T8V0wajNCV_pVb...

[adma]

Wouldn't be surprised if the same "retirement homes, hospitals, or LTC facilities" dynamic pertains to Bob Bratina in Hamilton.

[Hatman 🍁]

Chiarelli won random retirement polls in 2006 too