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« on: August 23, 2022, 09:42:03 AM »



Molinaro leads 57-39 among Independents.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2022, 09:53:37 AM »

Well that would certainly be a bad result for Dems IMO.

D4P has seemed to be a bit R-leaning in polling this cycle, so interested to see how this one turns out.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2022, 09:58:27 AM »

Oh well. So even if Pat overperforms polls like the Dem did in MN-1, he’s still in a deep hole and losing independents.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2022, 09:59:44 AM »

R+1

Not sure it margin will be that large, but I fully expect Molinaro to pull it off.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2022, 10:00:53 AM »

Molinaro will win. At this point I just expect the Republican to win so im not disappointed.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2022, 10:04:52 AM »

Oh well. So even if Pat overperforms polls like the Dem did in MN-1, he’s still in a deep hole and losing independents.

There weren't any polls of MN-01 or NE-01
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2022, 10:14:17 AM »

Oh well. So even if Pat overperforms polls like the Dem did in MN-1, he’s still in a deep hole and losing independents.

There weren't any polls of MN-01 or NE-01

538 says there was 1 SUSA and 1 internal for MN-1. Perhaps I should have said “overperforms poll” 😀

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/house/minnesota/1/
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2022, 10:16:31 AM »
« Edited: August 23, 2022, 12:17:40 PM by AncestralDemocrat. »

The true chaos is if Repubs overperform in NY-19 and underperform in NY-23.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2022, 10:16:58 AM »

Oh well. So even if Pat overperforms polls like the Dem did in MN-1, he’s still in a deep hole and losing independents.

There weren't any polls of MN-01 or NE-01

538 says there was 1 SUSA and 1 internal for MN-1. Perhaps I should have said “overperforms poll” 😀

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/house/minnesota/1/

You are correct, my bad. Forgot about the SUSA one!

Funny enough, the average of those two was the exact result.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2022, 10:47:23 AM »

It won't matter they're gonna revote in November anyways
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2022, 10:48:00 AM »

Lean R.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2022, 10:48:14 AM »

The portion over age 70 is 30%?! Even in 2018 the 65+ was only 26%.

Age 60+ is 55%

I like that they are publishing what they found instead of trying to herd.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2022, 10:49:03 AM »

also is this district really 94% white?!
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2022, 11:09:42 AM »

also is this district really 94% white?!

Not that extreme, but the diversity numbers are quite low.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/congressional-district-19-ny#demographics
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2022, 11:17:13 AM »


Interesting, so the district is about 83% white. This poll is betting that there's going to be minimal non-white turnout. Should be interesting.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2022, 11:27:00 AM »


Interesting, so the district is about 83% white. This poll is betting that there's going to be minimal non-white turnout. Should be interesting.

The estimated CVAP is a bit higher at 87% white. Combine that with differences in primary turnout by race and age (where these kinds of electorates skew older and whiter), and those numbers wouldn't be that off the mark.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2022, 11:42:48 AM »
« Edited: August 23, 2022, 11:51:30 AM by Weezy F Baby and the F is for Phetterman »

District polls can be wacky especially special elections. That said, NY-19 is basically upscale NEPA w/more kayaking and less hiking so this is not helping the 2016 PTSD alarm going off in my head ref. Cartwright/Shapiro/Fetterman’s prospects in PA’s own bronzland this November.
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2022, 12:12:11 PM »

The true chaos is if Repubs overperform in NY-19 and underperform in NY-27.
I think you mean NY-23 not NY-27 Wink
I doubt it. Sempolinski is actually a pretty decent Candidate.
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2022, 01:29:24 PM »

I’d be somewhat surprised if it were this lopsided, though I do expect Molinaro to win. A result like this would definitely be a good one for Republicans, though like any special election, it would only give us a small snapshot.
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2022, 01:38:23 PM »

Yeah, that one is going to flip. Am I correct that this would be the first flip of any special election in this congress?

Democrats must be down to 219 seats or so now Sad
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2022, 01:39:43 PM »

Yeah, that one is going to flip. Am I correct that this would be the first flip of any special election in this congress?

Democrats must be down to 219 seats or so now Sad

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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2022, 02:01:48 PM »

RIP, looks like the Red Wave is back on.
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2022, 02:06:31 PM »

RIP, looks like the Red Wave is back on.
It was never off. There many examples of referendums that pass in a particular state ad then the electorate overwhelmingly votes for candidates who take the opposite stance(MO right to work for instance)
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2022, 02:18:39 PM »

RIP, looks like the Red Wave is back on.
It was never off. There many examples of referendums that pass in a particular state ad then the electorate overwhelmingly votes for candidates who take the opposite stance(MO right to work for instance)

NE-1 and MN-1 were neutral environment elections, not red wave results.
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2022, 02:23:25 PM »

RIP, looks like the Red Wave is back on.
It was never off. There many examples of referendums that pass in a particular state ad then the electorate overwhelmingly votes for candidates who take the opposite stance(MO right to work for instance)

NE-1 and MN-1 were neutral environment elections, not red wave results.

Plus Washington state results. There was a good Politico article on that one.
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