In 1864, why did some War Democrats support Lincoln and others supported McClellan?
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  In 1864, why did some War Democrats support Lincoln and others supported McClellan?
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« on: August 21, 2022, 12:49:45 AM »
« edited: August 21, 2022, 12:59:31 AM by E-Dawg »

What were the disagreements between these two groups of War Democrats that caused them to split support between the two candidates?

Reading about Andrew Johnson specifically, I haven't been able to find his reasoning for siding with Lincoln over McClellan.

What did Johnson disagree with McClellan on or find him lacking?

Since McClellan was a War Democrat himself and supported fighting the war to its conclusion, wouldn't War Democrats feel at home supporting him?
Why were many dissatisfied and flipped to Lincoln?

Were there specific policy differences between the Lincoln War Democrats and the McClellan War Democrats in general?

Bonus: Who would Stephen Douglass have supported if he was still alive?
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2022, 12:31:53 PM »

Bumping in case any posters want to enlighten me with answers on these questions.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2023, 11:29:03 PM »

i guess nobody cares about this
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2023, 12:41:43 AM »

Its more that Lincoln had most of them since 1861 and did good work to keep them on board through appointments and through changing the name to the National Union Party for 1864.

Thus it was more that McClelland failed to gain many of them back and a big part of the reason was the split within the Democratic Party between those who supported the war and those who supported the copperheads.

The Democratic Party organization was very much dominated by copperheads and they composed a copperhead platform even while nominating McClellan.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2023, 12:58:09 PM »

Because some of them had a different version for reconstruction
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2023, 02:23:57 AM »

Its more that Lincoln had most of them since 1861 and did good work to keep them on board through appointments and through changing the name to the National Union Party for 1864.

Thus it was more that McClelland failed to gain many of them back and a big part of the reason was the split within the Democratic Party between those who supported the war and those who supported the copperheads.

The Democratic Party organization was very much dominated by copperheads and they composed a copperhead platform even while nominating McClellan.

So would this below analysis be correct in your view?:

"Soft" War Democrats supported McClellan as they found his pro-war views satisfactory enough to stick to their old party. Although they were pro-war, they were not so hardline on that issue that they felt it worth abandoning their party just because the party organization itself had suspicious copperhead tendencies, they trusted McClellan enough to believe he was his own man on the issue.

"Hard" War Democrats supported Lincoln because they trusted  him due to already have been doing the job for 4 years. They found the copperhead dominance of the Democratic party suspicious, especially since the VP nominee was a copperhead themselves. Lincoln was a proven figure they trusted to fight the war with full passion in spite of their disagreements, while they were not confident that McClellan would fight it with the same vigor due to how his party would be influencing him to be a dove.
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