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« on: January 13, 2007, 07:07:35 PM »

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Texans appear to feel strongly about this topic.
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2007, 07:11:39 PM »

weird, the results for the last four Texas counties (alphabetically) aren't showing up
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2007, 07:23:39 PM »

What city is in Travis County and why is it so ... well ... not Texan?
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2007, 07:30:01 PM »

What city is in Travis County and why is it so ... well ... not Texan?

Austin.  It is always one of the most dependably Democratic, liberal counties in Texas.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2007, 08:13:04 PM »

weird, the results for the last four Texas counties (alphabetically) aren't showing up

This is a bug that I introduced (again) when I added the New Mexico county support last night and I've corrected it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2007, 08:43:01 PM »

Texans appear to feel strongly about this topic.

It's an anti-gay marriage amendment. I guess this proves that even big cities in Texas (excluding Austin) are very conservative.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2007, 08:54:39 PM »

Texans appear to feel strongly about this topic.

It's an anti-gay marriage amendment. I guess this proves that even big cities in Texas (excluding Austin) are very conservative.

It's not just Texas.  Take a look at the map of the 2004 gay marriage amendment in Ohio:





That red county is Athens, which contains Ohio University, and is decidedly liberal and has a relatively smaller population.

Although Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Toledo, Akron and Dayton might have voted for the amendment by smaller margins than the rural areas, they still did so nonetheless.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2007, 09:53:23 PM »

I think such an amendment in Minnesota would fail in Ramsey, Hennepin, Rice, Winona, Blue Earth and Mower. Maybe St. Louis and Carlton.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2007, 10:17:41 PM »

Do we have a map of the failed Arizona referendum up?
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2007, 10:33:45 PM »
« Edited: January 13, 2007, 10:36:53 PM by nclib »

Do we have a map of the failed Arizona referendum up?

Not on Atlas, but RBH made a map here:

Prop 107: Marriage = One Man/One Woman, Failed 48-52 (Yes in Red, No in Blue)



Looks like the Kerry counties and Maricopa County opposed the amendment and the rest supported it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2007, 10:40:28 PM »

Texans appear to feel strongly about this topic.

It's an anti-gay marriage amendment. I guess this proves that even big cities in Texas (excluding Austin) are very conservative.

It's not just Texas.  Take a look at the map of the 2004 gay marriage amendment in Ohio:





That red county is Athens, which contains Ohio University, and is decidedly liberal and has a relatively smaller population.

Although Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Toledo, Akron and Dayton might have voted for the amendment by smaller margins than the rural areas, they still did so nonetheless.

Interesting...do you happen to have the county numerical results or the statewide numbers?

I wonder whether the large cities voted narrowly against the amendment but that the suburbs made the county overall to support it.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2007, 11:11:22 PM »

Texans appear to feel strongly about this topic.

It's an anti-gay marriage amendment. I guess this proves that even big cities in Texas (excluding Austin) are very conservative.

It's not just Texas.  Take a look at the map of the 2004 gay marriage amendment in Ohio:





That red county is Athens, which contains Ohio University, and is decidedly liberal and has a relatively smaller population.

Although Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Toledo, Akron and Dayton might have voted for the amendment by smaller margins than the rural areas, they still did so nonetheless.

Oh Athens.  Probably the most reliable Democratic County in Ohio strangely enough.  I am fairly surprised by the Franklin County results though since Columbus is supposedly so gay friendly.  I guess the suburbs overpowerd the city vote.
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2007, 07:25:29 AM »

Interesting...do you happen to have the county numerical results or the statewide numbers?

I wonder whether the large cities voted narrowly against the amendment but that the suburbs made the county overall to support it.

Sure:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/ElectionsVoter/results2004.aspx?Section=147

I don't have ward data, so I can't answer your second question.  It is likely, but for the larger cities, for the suburbs to tip the whole county into the 'yes' column you'd still have to have some substantial support in the cities anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2007, 01:15:23 PM »

Well think of all the black voters. It wouldn't shock me if it failed heavily in the white parts of Cleveland and Columbus. In Cincinnati though it probably passed everywhere easily.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2007, 10:05:36 PM »

Interesting...do you happen to have the county numerical results or the statewide numbers?

I wonder whether the large cities voted narrowly against the amendment but that the suburbs made the county overall to support it.

Sure:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/ElectionsVoter/results2004.aspx?Section=147

I don't have ward data, so I can't answer your second question.  It is likely, but for the larger cities, for the suburbs to tip the whole county into the 'yes' column you'd still have to have some substantial support in the cities anyway.

Thanks.

Looks like the top ten gay marriage friendly counties in Ohio are:

Athens (Ohio U.)        44.2%
Franklin (Columbus)       52.0%
Cuyahoga (Cleveland)   53.3%
Hamilton (Cincy)       56.3%
Portage       57.5%
Lucas (Toledo)           57.61%
Lake        57.63%
Summit (Akron)       57.9%
Montgomery (Dayton) 58.2%
Lorain        58.9%
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2007, 10:20:22 PM »

Interesting...do you happen to have the county numerical results or the statewide numbers?

I wonder whether the large cities voted narrowly against the amendment but that the suburbs made the county overall to support it.

Sure:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/ElectionsVoter/results2004.aspx?Section=147

I don't have ward data, so I can't answer your second question.  It is likely, but for the larger cities, for the suburbs to tip the whole county into the 'yes' column you'd still have to have some substantial support in the cities anyway.

Thanks.

Looks like the top ten gay marriage friendly counties in Ohio are:

Athens (Ohio U.)        44.2%
Franklin (Columbus)       52.0%
Cuyahoga (Cleveland)   53.3%
Hamilton (Cincy)       56.3%
Portage       57.5%
Lucas (Toledo)           57.61%
Lake        57.63%
Summit (Akron)       57.9%
Montgomery (Dayton) 58.2%
Lorain        58.9%

Portage strikes me as the only one on that list as being out of place.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2007, 10:28:10 PM »

Interesting...do you happen to have the county numerical results or the statewide numbers?

I wonder whether the large cities voted narrowly against the amendment but that the suburbs made the county overall to support it.

Sure:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/ElectionsVoter/results2004.aspx?Section=147

I don't have ward data, so I can't answer your second question.  It is likely, but for the larger cities, for the suburbs to tip the whole county into the 'yes' column you'd still have to have some substantial support in the cities anyway.

Thanks.

Looks like the top ten gay marriage friendly counties in Ohio are:

Athens (Ohio U.)        44.2%
Franklin (Columbus)       52.0%
Cuyahoga (Cleveland)   53.3%
Hamilton (Cincy)       56.3%
Portage       57.5%
Lucas (Toledo)           57.61%
Lake        57.63%
Summit (Akron)       57.9%
Montgomery (Dayton) 58.2%
Lorain        58.9%

Portage strikes me as the only one on that list as being out of place.

I looked Portage up, and it appears to be the home of Kent State University.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2007, 01:11:55 AM »

I forgot about Kent State being up there.  Makes more sense now.
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2007, 10:41:21 AM »

New Election: 2005 Texas Referendum Special Election Results
    
    

Texans appear to feel strongly about this topic.

And my luck of course...I live in the only red county on the map...
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2009, 07:26:06 PM »

Interesting...do you happen to have the county numerical results or the statewide numbers?

I wonder whether the large cities voted narrowly against the amendment but that the suburbs made the county overall to support it.

Sure:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/ElectionsVoter/results2004.aspx?Section=147

I don't have ward data, so I can't answer your second question.  It is likely, but for the larger cities, for the suburbs to tip the whole county into the 'yes' column you'd still have to have some substantial support in the cities anyway.

Actually, the precinct results are here now:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/elections/electResultsMain/2004ElectionsResults/04-1102Precint-By-Precinct.aspx

From calculations, Cincinnati had 47.2% and Columbus had 48.6% and Cleveland had 54.2%. Somewhat surprised about Cleveland, perhaps it's because it's a higher % black.
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2009, 07:39:36 AM »

Here's the Virginia referendum (same language as the Ohio one) to compare (57-43 statewide for yes):



The "No" areas are obvious -- cosmopolitan NoVa, heavily Democratic Richmond, Norfolk, and Petersburg, and college towns Williamsburg (William & Mary), Lexington (Washington & Lee), Charlottesville/Albemarle County (UVA), and Fredericksburg (Mary Washington). Montgomery County (Virginia Tech) was close, too (52-48 for yes). I'm also surprised that Lynchburg was only 52.3 - 47.7 yes.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2009, 08:29:06 AM »

Is it surprising that Virginia didn't get ~70% yes like all other southern states?

Also, thanks for the Texas map. I was looking for it. Does anyone know where I can find Kansas'?
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2009, 08:36:55 AM »

Is it surprising that Virginia didn't get ~70% yes like all other southern states?

Virginia's referendum banned same-sex marriage, civil unions, and anything else that simulates the appearance of marriage. It was basically a carbon copy of the Ohio law. And the law is so strict that it has unintended consequences: one of the problems is enforcing domestic violence statutes in relation to unmarried heterosexual couples -- there have been cases in Ohio thrown out because the defense has successfully argued the marriage amendment prevents them from being prosecuted like a spouse would.

An amendment that just said "marriage is between a man and a woman" would have easily passed with 70% of the vote, but this was so controversial, even the right-wing Richmond Times-Dispatch endorsed the "no" position. (As a comparison, they were the only daily paper in Virginia to endorse Jim Gilmore over Mark Warner.)
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2009, 12:11:28 PM »

Does anyone know where I can find Kansas'?



https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=20&year=2005&f=0&off=50&elect=7
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2009, 10:42:40 PM »
« Edited: September 27, 2009, 10:44:48 PM by Verily »

Wow, Douglas County. Almost as strongly against (62.9%) as for Obama (64.4%). In Saline County, No far outperformed Obama, although both lost.
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