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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2022, 10:07:14 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2022, 10:09:02 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

The present FBI leadership also happens to be appointed by Donald Trump. I guess irony can be pretty damned ironic sometimes.
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2022, 10:10:01 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

The present FBI leadership also happens to be appointed by Donald Trump. I guess irony can be pretty damned ironic sometimes.

I would prefer if the FBI wasn't appointed by the executive branch at all. Most other countries have non political civil servants.
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2022, 10:12:28 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

The present FBI leadership also happens to be appointed by Donald Trump. I guess irony can be pretty damned ironic sometimes.

Wray's appointment was a pick forced on Trump after firing Comey.  He was hardly "his" pick, any more than Louis Freeh was a Clinton partisan.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2022, 10:14:28 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

The present FBI leadership also happens to be appointed by Donald Trump. I guess irony can be pretty damned ironic sometimes.

Wray's appointment was a pick forced on Trump after firing Comey.  He was hardly "his" pick, any more than Louis Freeh was a Clinton partisan.

If Donald Trump was just a powerless figurehead anyway what would be the point of electing him in 2024 again?
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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2022, 10:19:26 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

The present FBI leadership also happens to be appointed by Donald Trump. I guess irony can be pretty damned ironic sometimes.

Wray's appointment was a pick forced on Trump after firing Comey.  He was hardly "his" pick, any more than Louis Freeh was a Clinton partisan.

If Donald Trump was just a powerless figurehead anyway what would be the point of electing him in 2024 again?

Trump was not a powerless figurehead.  If he had been, people on your side would not be so bent out of shape over him.
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« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2022, 10:28:37 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

The present FBI leadership also happens to be appointed by Donald Trump. I guess irony can be pretty damned ironic sometimes.

Wray's appointment was a pick forced on Trump after firing Comey.  He was hardly "his" pick, any more than Louis Freeh was a Clinton partisan.

If Donald Trump was just a powerless figurehead anyway what would be the point of electing him in 2024 again?

Trump was not a powerless figurehead.  If he had been, people on your side would not be so bent out of shape over him.

So, Trump was not a powerless figurehead because he happened to make people angry?

I guess by that definition you must be one of the most powerful people on this forum then. Congrats.
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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2022, 11:22:29 PM »

Hard HP.

It's still an oppressive agency that would back-up a typical GOP President's crack-down on civil liberties if needed. Just cause they understand the unique threat of Donald Trump, who also isn't very subtle about his crimes, doesn't mean they aren't heavy-handed state actors who do a lot of harm for every good thing they do.
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« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2022, 11:33:39 PM »

People should complain about the NSA, DEA and CIA (especially the last one.) Not them.
Whats wrong with any of those?
A is terrible, B is misused, and C is like A but for developing countries.

I don't understand this. Would you please elaborate?
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« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2022, 11:49:08 PM »

People should complain about the NSA, DEA and CIA (especially the last one.) Not them.
Whats wrong with any of those?
A is terrible, B is misused, and C is like A but for developing countries.

I don't understand this. Would you please elaborate?

Illegal spying operations but in oil-rich developing states.
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2022, 01:35:03 AM »

Pre-Waco = massive HP

Post-Waco = massive FF
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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2022, 02:01:18 AM »

Pre-Waco = massive HP

Post-Waco = massive FF

All they managed to do at Waco was kill a bunch of largely innocent people besides Korean. Women, kids, all burnt to death. They didn’t deserve to die.
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2022, 02:27:05 AM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

Reminder that Trump fired Comey for insufficient personal loyalty
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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2022, 03:36:04 AM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

Reminder that Trump fired Comey for insufficient personal loyalty

And…? Doesn’t mean that it’s not corrupt.

General rule for thumb: Federal investigate agencies are, always have been, and always will be corrupt. They are not and have never been “good” institutions, but necessary evils.
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« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2022, 04:35:30 AM »

Good work today, but we can never, ever forget what evil it brought onto the world on 10/28/2016, the precursor to the darkest day in history (11/8/2016).

The "darkest day in history" isn't when Hitler came to power?
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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2022, 04:39:05 AM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

Reminder that Trump fired Comey for insufficient personal loyalty

And…? Doesn’t mean that it’s not corrupt.

General rule for thumb: Federal investigate agencies are, always have been, and always will be corrupt. They are not and have never been “good” institutions, but necessary evils.

Were they corrupt when they chose to investigate Hillary Clinton?
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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2022, 07:58:54 AM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

The present FBI leadership also happens to be appointed by Donald Trump. I guess irony can be pretty damned ironic sometimes.

Wray's appointment was a pick forced on Trump after firing Comey.  He was hardly "his" pick, any more than Louis Freeh was a Clinton partisan.

If Donald Trump was just a powerless figurehead anyway what would be the point of electing him in 2024 again?

Trump was not a powerless figurehead.  If he had been, people on your side would not be so bent out of shape over him.

So who forced Trump to pick Wray?

I thought the whole argument in favor of Trump was that he was going to drain the swamp and couldn't be pushed around by the so-called deep state.
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« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2022, 02:07:24 PM »

They are politicized from top to bottom.  It's nothing new.  The present FBI leadership is as corrupt as J. Edgar Hoover.

Reminder that Trump fired Comey for insufficient personal loyalty

And…? Doesn’t mean that it’s not corrupt.

General rule for thumb: Federal investigate agencies are, always have been, and always will be corrupt. They are not and have never been “good” institutions, but necessary evils.

Were they corrupt when they chose to investigate Hillary Clinton?

Yes. I personally am not a fan of Hillary Clinton (I love her husband though), but, I will readily admit that she was subject to a political witch hunt, as were the others involved in that scandal like Huma Abedin and such. There was no need for a 60 something at the time woman to testify for 11 hours straight, either; that at that time struck me as insanely excessive. The whole thing was just bullying and petty.
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« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2022, 02:12:48 PM »

He Garland said that he doesn't have a case yet against Trump that's all he said and we know that already
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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2022, 02:19:13 PM »

 Historically a very racist organization led for too long by J. Edgar Hoover, a terrible human being who used the full power of the United States government to target and harass Black people.
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