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« Reply #1575 on: August 26, 2022, 10:54:25 AM »

3 docket entries but they're still sealed.
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« Reply #1576 on: August 26, 2022, 11:11:59 AM »

According to some Twitter reports, so many people are on PACER (the electronic court reporting system) trying to get the new information that they have crashed the system.
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« Reply #1577 on: August 26, 2022, 11:14:40 AM »

From the NYT:

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12:10pm: Judge Reinhart has ordered the release of documents, motions and orders tied to the request to redact the affidavit, indicating that he wants the public to understand why some of the affidavit is blacked out.
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« Reply #1578 on: August 26, 2022, 11:23:15 AM »

Shocking if true

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« Reply #1579 on: August 26, 2022, 11:23:43 AM »

A bit more from the NYT livethread:

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12:22pm - The court has unsealed the Justice Department papers related to its justification for continuing to keep large parts of the affidavit redacted. It includes a two-page list of paragraphs it wants to redact, along with justifications. Most of the justifications are redacted except for those involving “agents' safety,” which must be the names of F.B.I. personnel.
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« Reply #1580 on: August 26, 2022, 11:29:20 AM »

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000182-daec-dfd1-adef-dafe79d30000
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« Reply #1581 on: August 26, 2022, 11:37:37 AM »

As expected, much of the document is blacked-out.  But there is a section that alludes to a suspicion that further classified documents remain at MAL and that obstruction charges will be vindicated. 

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« Reply #1582 on: August 26, 2022, 11:38:53 AM »

This won't change minds. MAGA 100%
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« Reply #1583 on: August 26, 2022, 11:40:55 AM »

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« Reply #1584 on: August 26, 2022, 11:43:15 AM »

Has anyone just tried holding the document up to the light to try to decipher the text under the blacked out parts?
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« Reply #1585 on: August 26, 2022, 11:44:15 AM »

Apparently at least some of the classified documents involve human sources (possibly foreign).
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« Reply #1586 on: August 26, 2022, 11:44:56 AM »

Has anyone just tried holding the document up to the light to try to decipher the text under the blacked out parts?

Well it's digital so black is black.
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« Reply #1587 on: August 26, 2022, 11:48:04 AM »


This isn't about changing minds.  It's about investigating potential (and very serious) crimes and national security violations.
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« Reply #1588 on: August 26, 2022, 11:51:20 AM »


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« Reply #1589 on: August 26, 2022, 11:51:39 AM »


The mindless can't change their minds.
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« Reply #1590 on: August 26, 2022, 11:52:59 AM »

Has anyone just tried holding the document up to the light to try to decipher the text under the blacked out parts?

Well it's digital so black is black.

Eh, I'll bet this would still work if it were something the Trump lawyers released.
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« Reply #1591 on: August 26, 2022, 12:00:24 PM »

From an expert who has been fairly skeptical up to now about the prospect of an indictment:

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« Reply #1592 on: August 26, 2022, 12:02:13 PM »


This isn't about changing minds.  It's about investigating potential (and very serious) crimes and national security violations.

There is no crime, Trump is the president or ex president according to some Americans, he is right to have those documents. And let's not pretend that any attempt to lock Trump up would not seriously jeopardize the social stability of this country.
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« Reply #1593 on: August 26, 2022, 12:02:39 PM »

From an expert who has been fairly skeptical up to now about the prospect of an indictment:

https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1563208186085396482

Imagine saying that you're stealing a line & then you get the line wrong.
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« Reply #1594 on: August 26, 2022, 12:03:15 PM »


This isn't about changing minds.  It's about investigating potential (and very serious) crimes and national security violations.

There is no crime, Trump is the president or ex president according to some Americans, he is right to have those documents. And let's not pretend that any attempt to lock Trump up would not seriously jeopardize the social stability of this country.

LAW AND ORDER!
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« Reply #1595 on: August 26, 2022, 12:04:34 PM »


This isn't about changing minds.  It's about investigating potential (and very serious) crimes and national security violations.

There is no crime, Trump is the president or ex president according to some Americans, he is right to have those documents. And let's not pretend that any attempt to lock Trump up would not seriously jeopardize the social stability of this country.

Uh ex presidents do not have the right to those documents unless the current president gives them authorization to have them
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« Reply #1596 on: August 26, 2022, 12:05:03 PM »

I'm used to things being redacted since I read SCP
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« Reply #1597 on: August 26, 2022, 12:08:07 PM »
« Edited: August 26, 2022, 12:19:38 PM by Torie »


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000182-daec-dfd1-adef-dafe79d30000


I read the document in its entirety. My takeaways are 1) sensitive documents were intermixed with non sensitive ones in a chaotic fashion, which is not up to archival standards to say the least, 2) all the reasons for the redactions were also redacted in the chart except the one for "agent safety," and 3) the DOJ seemed annoyed that Trump had issued a statement that the government found nothing improper in the documents that he voluntarily gave them pursuant to their request last February.

What one otherwise could read was boilerplate about why releasing affidavits compromises criminal investigations.

Not much to see here overall. And the chaotic organization and filing system or lack of a system suggests feckless incompetence (cf "orange buffoon"), rather than something more sinister.  All in all not that much additional bad news here for Trump, at least that is not covered up in black. So things have not yet been brought to a head, and the boil lanced.

We now I will see what the MSM big guns think as compared to what the forum fossil thinks.
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« Reply #1598 on: August 26, 2022, 12:09:52 PM »


This isn't about changing minds.  It's about investigating potential (and very serious) crimes and national security violations.

There is no crime, Trump is the president or ex president according to some Americans, he is right to have those documents. And let's not pretend that any attempt to lock Trump up would not seriously jeopardize the social stability of this country.

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« Reply #1599 on: August 26, 2022, 12:11:49 PM »


This isn't about changing minds.  It's about investigating potential (and very serious) crimes and national security violations.

There is no crime, Trump is the president or ex president according to some Americans, he is right to have those documents. And let's not pretend that any attempt to lock Trump up would not seriously jeopardize the social stability of this country.

Uh ex presidents do not have the right to those documents unless the current president gives them authorization to have them

Well, because of the "circumstances" that put Biden in the oval office, there is reasonable doubt about his authority in this case.
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