Korea: Yoon has jumped straight into the toilet

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https://asiatimes.com/2022/07/yoons-approval-ratings-already-cratering-in-korea/

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Seems to be a global trend, Leaders get elected and see their approvals almost instantly crumble. Pretty obvious people tend to disapprove of their leaders that oversee their living standards fall.

[PSOL]

Lee threw a winnable race by moderating his platform, especially on housing. The LKP ran one of the most embarrassing campaigns in Asia and Moon’s approval ratings wasn’t that bad at the time compared to previous administrations.

Yoon is legitimately terrible and so far the clown show is starting off strong

[Logical]

Hardly surprising. He was a complete moron who nearly blew what fundamentally should have been an easy victory in the presidential race.

[Biden 2024]

He needs to bring back the 90 hour workweek and ban people from doing the pinching sign to reverse course imo

[KaiserDave]

What a disastrous election.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What a disastrous election.

BUT AT LEAST THE FEMINAZIS DIDN'T GET IN AMIRITE LADS

(yes, I know that South Korean radfems are genuinely terrible. South Korean MRAs are still even worse.)

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

What a disastrous election.

BUT AT LEAST THE FEMINAZIS DIDN'T GET IN AMIRITE LADS

(yes, I know that South Korean radfems are genuinely terrible. South Korean MRAs are still even worse.)

South Korea is the most "American" of the Sinosphere countries in political terms, only they manage to have gender issues so toxic that it makes the conversation in America look downright healthy by comparison.

[CumbrianLefty]

What a disastrous election.

Elect in haste, repent at leisure.

[PSOL]

What a disastrous election.

BUT AT LEAST THE FEMINAZIS DIDN'T GET IN AMIRITE LADS

(yes, I know that South Korean radfems are genuinely terrible. South Korean MRAs are still even worse.)

The Feminazis almost got in by aligning with Yoon.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What a disastrous election.

BUT AT LEAST THE FEMINAZIS DIDN'T GET IN AMIRITE LADS

(yes, I know that South Korean radfems are genuinely terrible. South Korean MRAs are still even worse.)

The Feminazis almost got in by aligning with Yoon.

Yes, I'm well aware that these people are stupid.

[CumbrianLefty]

So are their RadFems even more TERFish than in the UK?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

So are their RadFems even more TERFish than in the UK?

That's part of the issue, but the broader, er, declivity is their willingness to reflexively side with the far right when they feel that center/left is not owning the males hard enough. Since the MRAs do the same thing, Yoon was able to get the votes of both extremes in one of the most toxic issues in current ROK politics simultaneously.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

So are their RadFems even more TERFish than in the UK?

That's part of the issue, but the broader, er, declivity is their willingness to reflexively side with the far right when they feel that center/left is not owning the males hard enough. Since the MRAs do the same thing, Yoon was able to get the votes of both extremes in one of the most toxic issues in current ROK politics simultaneously.

How is Yoon far right ? That seems like a very weird use of the word.

[Aurelius]

Does anyone have a layman's explanation of South Korea's gender politics and why they are so bad?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

So are their RadFems even more TERFish than in the UK?

That's part of the issue, but the broader, er, declivity is their willingness to reflexively side with the far right when they feel that center/left is not owning the males hard enough. Since the MRAs do the same thing, Yoon was able to get the votes of both extremes in one of the most toxic issues in current ROK politics simultaneously.

How is Yoon far right ? That seems like a very weird use of the word.

He probably isn't at heart but his campaign flirted with ideas that I'd consider well beyond the pale such as massively lengthening the workweek, abolishing the Korean equivalent of CPS, and, iirc, abolishing the minimum wage.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

So are their RadFems even more TERFish than in the UK?

That's part of the issue, but the broader, er, declivity is their willingness to reflexively side with the far right when they feel that center/left is not owning the males hard enough. Since the MRAs do the same thing, Yoon was able to get the votes of both extremes in one of the most toxic issues in current ROK politics simultaneously.

So uh, is it fair to say that the political far-right in South Korea (to the extent that it is relevant), is neither hostile to the the most "anti-male" strands of political thought (as well as those ascribing to it), nor the most "anti-female" ones?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

So are their RadFems even more TERFish than in the UK?

That's part of the issue, but the broader, er, declivity is their willingness to reflexively side with the far right when they feel that center/left is not owning the males hard enough. Since the MRAs do the same thing, Yoon was able to get the votes of both extremes in one of the most toxic issues in current ROK politics simultaneously.

So uh, is it fair to say that the political far-right in South Korea (to the extent that it is relevant), is neither hostile to the the most "anti-male" strands of political thought (as well as those ascribing to it), nor the most "anti-female" ones?

I think this depends on the framing. It's opposed to redressing either the ways women tend to suffer in Korean society (genuinely deranged beauty standards, tons of workplace and public-accommodations harassment) or the ways men tend to (various conscription and military-related cultural issues--more broadly relevant than that sounds even compared to in, say, Israel, for reasons I don't fully understand). So on that level, yes, it's happy to maintain or even further entrench both "anti-male" and "anti-female" policy in the areas where they already exist.

[Хahar 🤔]

So are their RadFems even more TERFish than in the UK?

That's part of the issue, but the broader, er, declivity is their willingness to reflexively side with the far right when they feel that center/left is not owning the males hard enough. Since the MRAs do the same thing, Yoon was able to get the votes of both extremes in one of the most toxic issues in current ROK politics simultaneously.

So uh, is it fair to say that the political far-right in South Korea (to the extent that it is relevant), is neither hostile to the the most "anti-male" strands of political thought (as well as those ascribing to it), nor the most "anti-female" ones?

I think this depends on the framing. It's opposed to redressing either the ways women tend to suffer in Korean society (genuinely deranged beauty standards, tons of workplace and public-accommodations harassment) or the ways men tend to (various conscription and military-related cultural issues--more broadly relevant than that sounds even compared to in, say, Israel, for reasons I don't fully understand). So on that level, yes, it's happy to maintain or even further entrench both "anti-male" and "anti-female" policy in the areas where they already exist.

My understanding is that conscription in South Korea is unusually onerous in terms of the conditions that conscripts are placed under. Crucially, the South Korean military is mostly made up of conscripts, which one might imagine would lead to discipline problems that do not exist in more professional environments. There is also the matter of the indoctrination to which all conscripts are necessarily subjected upon enlistment, which might in itself encourage right-wing and anti-feminist attitudes.

The obvious difference with Israel, of course, is that conscription in South Korea is a burden that falls only on men. There are plenty of groups that are exempt from conscription in Israel, but they exist outside the mainstream of Israeli society, which I would imagine would tamp down feelings of specific resentment directed at those people compared to what we see in South Korea.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Does anyone have a layman's explanation of South Korea's gender politics and why they are so bad?

male-only Conscription is an underrated factor in how it increases gendered resentment.