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Minnesota Mike
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« on: July 28, 2022, 08:08:47 PM »


Lots of Red flags on this one. Also, John Bolton has a Superpac?
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2022, 08:14:27 PM »
Quote from: Minnesota Mike on July 28, 2022, 08:08:47 PM

Lots of Red flags on this one. Also, John Bolton has a Superpac?

The Tweet got deleted, so is there a better source?
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2022, 08:18:20 PM »
I still expect Vance to win….but man are Republicans shooting themselves in the foot with recruiting.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2022, 08:25:50 PM »
Quote from: NewYorkExpress on July 28, 2022, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: Minnesota Mike on July 28, 2022, 08:08:47 PM

Lots of Red flags on this one. Also, John Bolton has a Superpac?

The Tweet got deleted, so is there a better source?

https://boltonsuperpac.com/pdfs/crostabs_07282022.pdf
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2022, 08:41:17 PM »
Trying to unskew polls is never a good idea. That being said, I'd be utterly shocked if Vance lost this race, though it almost seems like he's TRYING to lose it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2022, 08:59:28 PM »
Quote from: SnowLabrador on July 28, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
Trying to unskew polls is never a good idea. That being said, I'd be utterly shocked if Vance lost this race, though it almost seems like he's TRYING to lose it.

I'm not as certain. We've seen several polls in a row with Ryan ahead, and not all of them have been internals. In fact, if this is a John Bolton PAC, this would basically be a Vance internal.

Ryan would probably win if the election were held today.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2022, 09:05:35 PM »
Quote from: NewYorkExpress on July 28, 2022, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: SnowLabrador on July 28, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
Trying to unskew polls is never a good idea. That being said, I'd be utterly shocked if Vance lost this race, though it almost seems like he's TRYING to lose it.

I'm not as certain. We've seen several polls in a row with Ryan ahead, and not all of them have been internals. In fact, if this is a John Bolton PAC, this would basically be a Vance internal.

Ryan would probably win if the election were held today.
There hasn't been a independent poll of Ohio since late May (which shown Vance leading).. so yes, they've all been internals.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2022, 09:10:12 PM »

Rather weird numbers .
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2022, 09:14:36 PM »
Quote from: AncestralDemocrat. on July 28, 2022, 09:10:12 PM

Rather weird numbers .

Yeah, they were awful in 2020. Throw it in the average I guess, but I wouldn’t hang my hat on any poll from this PAC.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2022, 09:29:38 PM »
At this point I think >50% of public polls are outright fraudulent. Any industry that John Bolton is involved with is likely criminal in nature.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2022, 09:30:43 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2022, 07:15:04 AM by SnowLabrador »
This poll is garbage. Not because of the topline, but because it literally has Ohio voting 10 points to the left of Georgia, when the opposite is likely to happen instead.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2022, 12:42:54 AM »
Great news😃
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2022, 02:44:45 AM »
Quote from: NewYorkExpress on July 28, 2022, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: SnowLabrador on July 28, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
Trying to unskew polls is never a good idea. That being said, I'd be utterly shocked if Vance lost this race, though it almost seems like he's TRYING to lose it.

I'm not as certain. We've seen several polls in a row with Ryan ahead, and not all of them have been internals. In fact, if this is a John Bolton PAC, this would basically be a Vance internal.

Ryan would probably win if the election were held today.

John Bolton already sold out to the Resist crowd. Like the Lincoln project, he'd be more focused on discrediting far-right Republicans like Vance than anything.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2022, 03:47:27 AM »
Quote from: SnowLabrador on July 28, 2022, 09:30:43 PM
This poll is garbage. Not because of the topline, but because it literally has Ohio voting 10 points to the right of Georgia, when the opposite is likely to happen instead.

Every poll has Vance behind
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2022, 03:48:42 AM »
Quote from: kwabbit on July 29, 2022, 02:44:45 AM
Quote from: NewYorkExpress on July 28, 2022, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: SnowLabrador on July 28, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
Trying to unskew polls is never a good idea. That being said, I'd be utterly shocked if Vance lost this race, though it almost seems like he's TRYING to lose it.

Every poll has Vance down, not every poll is wrong Vance isn'tt Rob Portman he's gonna lose

I'm not as certain. We've seen several polls in a row with Ryan ahead, and not all of them have been internals. In fact, if this is a John Bolton PAC, this would basically be a Vance internal.

Ryan would probably win if the election were held today.

John Bolton already sold out to the Resist crowd. Like the Lincoln project, he'd be more focused on discrediting far-right Republicans like Vance than anything.
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2022, 05:58:45 AM »
Quote from: AncestralDemocrat. on July 28, 2022, 09:10:12 PM

Rather weird numbers .

"Bolton SuperPAC" makes me queasy. 

(It also may be the John Bolton variety-pack.  Six John Boltons for the price of one!)
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2022, 08:17:10 AM »
All of these polls have n=300 samples for entire states. Throw them all in the trash.
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2022, 08:19:53 AM »
I wouldn't throw them all away the same polls show Vance losing 46/41 anyways and Fetterman leads 44/38 the same as other polls he's gonna win by 5
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2022, 03:31:41 PM »
New Poll: Ohio Senator by Other Source on 2022-07-24

Summary: D: 44%, R: 38%, U: 18%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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