Man pinned down & shot in the neck by police officer

[Koharu]

Footage shows a Harris County Sheriff’s Office deputy chasing the man, pinning him down and hitting him with a stun gun before shooting him in the back.

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Hardin then shot Brooks in the base of his head and neck while holding him to the ground.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/roderick-brooks-shooting-fatal-houston_n_62e18fb0e4b09d14dc3ef013?by

This is absolutely sickening. Of course, because he reached for the Taser, the killing officer will not be held responsible.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

[NewYorkExpress]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

No, if a guy is trying to run down an officer they have every right to use deadly force. Only when deadly force is being used by the assailant/criminal/whatever you wanna call em, is there justification.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Now imagine this system in the hands of an alt-right GOP majority determined to turn our country into Gilead.

Criminal justice reform is a winning issue and needs to be made a bigger focus of Democratic goals imo. Wake people up to what's going on. Our policing systems need to drastically change if our country is going to succesfully see out the 21st century.

[NewYorkExpress]

Now imagine this system in the hands of an alt-right GOP majority determined to turn our country into Gilead.

Criminal justice reform is a winning issue and needs to be made a bigger focus of Democratic goals imo. Wake people up to what's going on. Our policing systems need to drastically change if our country is going to succesfully see out the 21st century.

No, we need to not have a policing system or any criminal law enforcement, if we are to successfully see out the 21st century.

[Orwell]

State sanctioned executions.

Now imagine this system in the hands of an alt-right GOP majority determined to turn our country into Gilead.

Criminal justice reform is a winning issue and needs to be made a bigger focus of Democratic goals imo. Wake people up to what's going on. Our policing systems need to drastically change if our country is going to succesfully see out the 21st century.

No, we need to not have a policing system or any criminal law enforcement, if we are to successfully see out the 21st century.

Didn't you want to hang the January 6th people

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

What would you do if someone was trying to kill you? Politely ask them to please stop?

[NewYorkExpress]

State sanctioned executions.

Now imagine this system in the hands of an alt-right GOP majority determined to turn our country into Gilead.

Criminal justice reform is a winning issue and needs to be made a bigger focus of Democratic goals imo. Wake people up to what's going on. Our policing systems need to drastically change if our country is going to succesfully see out the 21st century.

No, we need to not have a policing system or any criminal law enforcement, if we are to successfully see out the 21st century.

Didn't you want to hang the January 6th people

Yes. However, we have the laws we have, and we're stuck with them, unfortunately. It's not lost on me that if the January 6 rioters were all black they would have already been hung.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Now imagine this system in the hands of an alt-right GOP majority determined to turn our country into Gilead.

Criminal justice reform is a winning issue and needs to be made a bigger focus of Democratic goals imo. Wake people up to what's going on. Our policing systems need to drastically change if our country is going to succesfully see out the 21st century.

No, we need to not have a policing system or any criminal law enforcement, if we are to successfully see out the 21st century.

I mean, I think what we need is drastic reform to demilitarize our police systems and properly fund our social service systems so that situations currently dealt by with the police that would more properly be dealt with by a social worker, for instance, is the way forward.

European style policing systems that are more community based usually don't see this kind of horrible crap happening on a weekly basis.

[NewYorkExpress]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

What would you do if someone was trying to kill you? Politely ask them to please stop?

Just let them shoot me?

They obviously aren't going to not shoot me if I ask for them to not shoot me if that's what they want to do.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Now imagine this system in the hands of an alt-right GOP majority determined to turn our country into Gilead.

Criminal justice reform is a winning issue and needs to be made a bigger focus of Democratic goals imo. Wake people up to what's going on. Our policing systems need to drastically change if our country is going to succesfully see out the 21st century.

No, we need to not have a policing system or any criminal law enforcement, if we are to successfully see out the 21st century.

Didn't you want to hang the January 6th people

Yes. However, we have the laws we have, and we're stuck with them, unfortunately. It's not lost on me that if the January 6 rioters were all black they would have already been hung.

Idk if I agree with the rest of your point, but this is pure facts. If the Left had attempted what the alt-right did on January 6th it would've been a blood bath. Period.

[dead0man]

I'm gonna wait for the video, but as always, this guy would be alive had he, ya know, not done the things he did the few minutes before he died.  Like last time, I don't know if the cop should have shot him, but I do know it was really stupid to give the cop a good excuse to do it.


Now bring on your best low effort "lolbirtarian" jokes!

[Goldwater]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

What would you do if someone was trying to kill you? Politely ask them to please stop?

Just let them shoot me?

They obviously aren't going to not shoot me if I ask for them to not shoot me if that's what they want to do.

So the use of force isn't even justified in cases of self-defense?

[NewYorkExpress]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

What would you do if someone was trying to kill you? Politely ask them to please stop?

Just let them shoot me?

They obviously aren't going to not shoot me if I ask for them to not shoot me if that's what they want to do.

So the use of force isn't even justified in cases of self-defense?

I don't believe so, no. Hence why I want to repeal the Second Amendment.

[Catholics vs. Convicts]

What is so damn hard about shooting to disable rather than shooting someone at point plank range to kill?

[Ferguson97]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

What would you do if someone was trying to kill you? Politely ask them to please stop?

Just let them shoot me?

They obviously aren't going to not shoot me if I ask for them to not shoot me if that's what they want to do.

So the use of force isn't even justified in cases of self-defense?

I don't believe so, no. Hence why I want to repeal the Second Amendment.

So is your stance that the Uvalde police did nothing wrong?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What is so damn hard about shooting to disable rather than shooting someone at point plank range to kill?

Because that's not a thing that exists outside of TV and movies.

The problem in this case is that he shot at all.

[They not like us]

Let this be a lesson to all hardened, evil, scum of the earth criminals who -checks notes- steal detergent from the dollar store

[LBJer]

What is so damn hard about shooting to disable rather than shooting someone at point plank range to kill?

Because doing so greatly decreases your chance of hitting the person.  If someone is trying to kill you, such an approach therefore increases the odds you'll be killed yourself.  Moreover, why do they even deserve such magnaminity from you?

[Alben Barkley]

For things like this I always try to reserve judgement until the video is released...but this does not sound good to put it mildly. Even if he did reach for the taser that is not justification for deadly force.

OK there is a still frame in the article...and then this bit:

The body camera footage shows that Brooks did not point the Taser toward the officer, and that he let go of it while Hardin reached for his gun.

Not even remotely justifiable.

There is NEVER a justification for an officer to use deadly force. Not even when a suspect is trying to kill them.

What would you do if someone was trying to kill you? Politely ask them to please stop?

Just let them shoot me?

They obviously aren't going to not shoot me if I ask for them to not shoot me if that's what they want to do.

So the use of force isn't even justified in cases of self-defense?

I don't believe so, no. Hence why I want to repeal the Second Amendment.

You are insane.

[Santander]

Sad that I didn't even need to click the link to know the race of the man who was shot.

[YE]

Don’t feed the troll.

[Catholics vs. Convicts]

What is so damn hard about shooting to disable rather than shooting someone at point plank range to kill?

Because doing so greatly decreases your chance of hitting the person.  If someone is trying to kill you, such an approach therefore increases the odds you'll be killed yourself.  Moreover, why do they even deserve such magnaminity from you?

If you are right on top of the guy and he is pinned face down, you have plenty of a likelihood of hitting the person in the hand, arm, or shoulder. I refuse to believe that it is a reasonable position to say that the only option for a cop who is supposedly threatened in that situation is to shoot to kill.

I offer "such magnanimity" as a bare minimum criticism of why the situation is outrageous. I have no problem saying there are greater problems of police aggression and oppression in situations that are completely uncalled for.

[Person Man]

What exactly happened? Some people suggest the guy was running towards the cop and the cop did what he had to do while the other narrative is that the cop stunned the guy and went out of his way to extrajudicially execute him. Was this a successful repelling of an attack on a LEO or an extrajudicial execution?