Why was Chesa Boudin recalled from the office of DA?

[bayareabay]

I'm wondering what happened that made SF recall a progressive democrat from DA's office by a 55/45 margin. I have come up with several reasons including that SF was duped by outside money or, at its heart, is really a den of hypocritical racism and doesn't live up to it's progressive reputation. Looking at a map of the result, the vote to recall Chesa Boudin was highest in many of the rich and white neighborhoods. The Marina, Presidio Heights, Sea Cliff, St Francis Wood, Cow Hollow, and Lakeshore all voted 70-80% to recall Boudin. It seems many of the richest and whitest SFans are centrists that will only vote for moderate or conservative democrats. However, there were majority white neighborhoods that actually voted against the recall. Chesa Boudin was voted out in many heavily working class and Asian neighborhoods, but the margins there were only 50-65% and had lower turnout than the affluent neighborhoods. The pro-recall campaign also raised 3x as much money, mostly from outside SF. I know that they used that money to publish literature where they blamed Chesa Boudin for a series of tragedies and violent crimes that took place during his time in office. The biggest factor in the recall passing was probably low turnout. Only 46% of registered voters participated in the recall election compared to 86% of voters in the last presidential election, or 68% in the recall of Gavin Newsom. I wonder why most people sat this election out. Was the vote close enough to suggest that Chesa Boudin can be re-elected if he runs again in November?

Map of recall vote: https://electionmapsf.com

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Why SHOULD he not have been recalled?

Why SHOULD he be put back in office?

That's an argument I really want to hear.

[bayareabay]

Why SHOULD he not have been recalled?

Why SHOULD he be put back in office?

That's an argument I really want to hear.

https://www.boudinfacts.com/

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Most of what you posted are compelling reasons why he was rightly recalled.  Particularly the ending of cash bail.

I'm not for a good deal of the "tough on crime" legislation that has been passed, but I am for enforcing the law as it is.  That one is poor does not give one the right to steal or violently act out, and the criminal justice system exists to protect the innocent against the guilty, whether the guilty party be either Walgreens, or some poor person who was robbed of $600 worth of stuff which was not enough for Chesa Boudin to do his job over and enforce the existing law, but represented the poor person's entire net worth in this world.

The Rule of Law means just that.  It also means that the Government will prosecute criminals because that criminal has violated, in some manner, a person's right to life, liberty, or property by committing the crime they committed.  On paper we have our enumerated Constitutional Rights.  In reality, we only have the rights we can defend.  In fact, residents of San Francisco did not have the right to propperty, and (arguably) the right to liberty due to the manner in which Chesa Boudin carried himself in office.

[Greedo punched first]

Will Jenkins be elected to a term of her own or be voted out?

[bayareabay]

If Chesa runs against her I believe the race will be a toss up.

[bayareabay]

Most of what you posted are compelling reasons why he was rightly recalled.  Particularly the ending of cash bail.

I'm not for a good deal of the "tough on crime" legislation that has been passed, but I am for enforcing the law as it is.  That one is poor does not give one the right to steal or violently act out, and the criminal justice system exists to protect the innocent against the guilty, whether the guilty party be either Walgreens, or some poor person who was robbed of $600 worth of stuff which was not enough for Chesa Boudin to do his job over and enforce the existing law, but represented the poor person's entire net worth in this world.

The Rule of Law means just that.  It also means that the Government will prosecute criminals because that criminal has violated, in some manner, a person's right to life, liberty, or property by committing the crime they committed.  On paper we have our enumerated Constitutional Rights.  In reality, we only have the rights we can defend.  In fact, residents of San Francisco did not have the right to propperty, and (arguably) the right to liberty due to the manner in which Chesa Boudin carried himself in office.

Boudin's role does not obligate him to prosecute or be brutal, but to care for public health outcomes. It's the judge who sets detention and the department of public health that sets incarceration. It's misleading to imply that Boudin didn't prosecute criminals when the data says that he did prosecute about 85% of cases brought to the DA's office. It is a misdemeanor to steal $600 but Boudin does prosecute misdemeanor thefts when he can. The vast majority of thefts result in no arrest and it's been that way for many years. Most of the people who voted for recall are those who live in safe, upscale neighborhoods as many of the richest parts of the city voted 70-80% to recall. It's always those from the wealthiest and safest neighborhoods doing the most complaining. Puppet DA Brooke Jenkins won't make SF safer. She intends to prosecute small time non-violent drug offenders and employ the same tired policies that have failed for decades. The Mayor appointed Brooke Jenkins to get London Breed's murderer brother out of prison based on “compassionate” release which Boudin would not do. That's why Breed chose her. That's why she hated Boudin.

[PSOL]

Because the rich elite of San Fran wanted him out and he didn’t have the proper grassroots infrastructure to respond to the attacks and run his campaign. Relying on democratic infrastructure as a progressive is a one edge sword that always cuts you. Look at how they kicked out the former homeless councilor in the Bay Area unfairly.

Granted, Chesa Boudin has deep links to the community and if he runs against a candidate—with all the flaws of being a dystopian corporate creature as merciful as the magistrates in a Victor Hugo novel or A tale of Two Cities—he could win again or shorten the margin of loss. I remember that the polls, as bs as they were, greatly overestimated the recall and didn’t take into account facts on the ground. San Fran is immensely gentrified and only got worse these few years, but there still are working families not overpayed bureaucrats or private labor aristocratic families that with the right campaigning could push him over the edge.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

He managed to piss off the biggest DEMographic in the city.

[lfromnj]

Wealth wasn't really an indicator. The only major correlation was Asian percentage and commute type. There was a few ultra wealthy areas that were Anti Boudin but they werent enough

[PSOL]

Wealth wasn't really an indicator. The only major correlation was Asian percentage and commute type. There was a few ultra wealthy areas that were Anti Boudin but they werent enough

I would maintain that within precincts, the upper income individuals were most against Boudin and especially in ethnic communities it was the corporate heads and upscale shopkeeps most against him.

[GeneralMacArthur]

SF was making national news because asian people were getting mugged in the street and luxury stores were being straight-up gang-robbed, and all Chesa Boudin had was "ackshually if you look at the official statistics crime is down."  It's usually not a good idea to insult the intelligence of your own constituents when you're trying to win their votes.

[PSOL]

SF was making national news because asian people were getting mugged in the street and luxury stores were being straight-up gang-robbed, and all Chesa Boudin had was "ackshually if you look at the official statistics crime is down."  It's usually not a good idea to insult the intelligence of your own constituents when you're trying to win their votes.

So facts don’t even matter in elections. That doesn’t bode well for any of us.

[GeneralMacArthur]

SF was making national news because asian people were getting mugged in the street and luxury stores were being straight-up gang-robbed, and all Chesa Boudin had was "ackshually if you look at the official statistics crime is down."  It's usually not a good idea to insult the intelligence of your own constituents when you're trying to win their votes.

So facts don’t even matter in elections. That doesn’t bode well for any of us.

No, people either don't believe the official statistic (mainly due to crime simply going unreported) or think it's disconnected from the reality they experience (e.g. fewer crimes but they're more severe and the response to them has grown much worse).

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

SF was making national news because asian people were getting mugged in the street and luxury stores were being straight-up gang-robbed, and all Chesa Boudin had was "ackshually if you look at the official statistics crime is down."  It's usually not a good idea to insult the intelligence of your own constituents when you're trying to win their votes.

So facts don’t even matter in elections. That doesn’t bode well for any of us.

More accurate to say statistics don't even matter in elections. And they can be used in a very misleading matter even without making data up.

[GALeftist]

I would even go so far as to say that facts have never mattered in elections, except insofar as they affect people's lives. Most Americans aren't actually victims of violent crime so facts especially don't matter when it comes to crime, it's all about perception. Similar story in South Africa: even many supposedly liberal whites (and some blacks as well!) will swear up and down that it's a crime-riddled hellhole under ANC rule, even though crime is demonstrably down tremendously since apartheid ended.

[PSOL]

SF was making national news because asian people were getting mugged in the street and luxury stores were being straight-up gang-robbed, and all Chesa Boudin had was "ackshually if you look at the official statistics crime is down."  It's usually not a good idea to insult the intelligence of your own constituents when you're trying to win their votes.

So facts don’t even matter in elections. That doesn’t bode well for any of us.

No, people either don't believe the official statistic (mainly due to crime simply going unreported) or think it's disconnected from the reality they experience (e.g. fewer crimes but they're more severe and the response to them has grown much worse).

Crime going unreported is always the case, and “peoples experiences” is unreliable given our statistics are not that off to at least catch trends of crime.

So yeah, that leads to the supposed crime wave to be a case of mass hysteria brought on by the media and campaigners against Boudin. And Boudin’s record is greatly smeared as “too weak on crime” by people pushing the lies that more punishment equals more crime which just isn’t the case.