Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim

[Del Tachi]

If there's a legal reporting requirement on providers who provide abortion in cases of rape/incest, then it should be enforced.

[Del Tachi]

If there's a legal reporting requirement on providers who provide abortion in cases of rape/incest, then it should be enforced.

Immoral laws should not be enforced.

What is immoral about requiring abortions performed in cases of rape/incest be reported?

[Del Tachi]

If there's a legal reporting requirement on providers who provide abortion in cases of rape/incest, then it should be enforced.

Immoral laws should not be enforced.

What is immoral about requiring abortions performed in cases of rape/incest be reported?

Why should an abortion be reported to the government?

In cases of rape/incest, and especially when we're talking about children.  Doctors have a responsibility to report suspected child abuse to the proper authorities. 

[Del Tachi]

Report the abuse. Not the abortion.

Had to read Alfie's post before coming up with this one, eh?

If there's a legal reporting requirement on providers who provide abortion in cases of rape/incest, then it should be enforced.

Immoral laws should not be enforced.

What is immoral about requiring abortions performed in cases of rape/incest be reported?

Why should an abortion be reported to the government?

Only in cases of rape/incest, and especially when we're talking about children.  Doctors have a responsibility to report suspected child abuse to the proper authorities. 

Absolutely they do

But why should abortions be reported to the state? (making the non reporting of one an offence)

What benefit is there in reporting the abuse, but filling a separate or additional report if there's a pregnancy or termination?

Why does the state need to know this?

The relevant IN law requires medical providers report suspected child abuse.  There is no record of the abortionist in this case initating such a report, which is reason to open an investigation.

Even if the 10-year old girl is a resident of OH, the reporting requirement still applies to the IN provider who treated her.  The IN authorities who received the report would be responsible for passing any actionable information back to OH law enforcement. 

Secondly, there is more potential for intimidation and coercion in cases involving minors because they cannot provide meaningfully informed consent.  A universal abortion reporting requirement that would apply to minors (or at least those younger than 16, or even 13 - but definitely including age 10) is valid for this reason.     

[Del Tachi]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1547582267291082752

Not unexpected either.

Yeah dude, it's totally not unexpected because the abortion provider in this case went on record in the original reporting by The Indianapolis Star.  Her name and likeness have been associated with this story since the very beginning.  There's no malicious "doxxing" to see here, but nice try attempting to spin the facts of this case (and attracting the usual suspects to pile on your "rec" button!)   

[Del Tachi]

The gall of debating whether a 10-year-old girl can provide “meaningfully informed consent” to an abortion is so sickening I can’t even describe it. Do you think she’s able to give meaningfully informed consent to having a baby?

Facts matter.  You don't "provide consent" to have a baby, do you?

Abortion is a medical procedure that carries certain risks like any other.  The procedure is very medically invasive compared to the type of care a healthy 10-year old would typically be receiving.  Making sure the adults charged with affecting this decision are acting in the best interest of the child is an appropriate role for the state to play.

FWIW, I also believe this cuts in the opposite direction.  It would be acceptable for courts to order minor children receive medically induced abortions in cases where it is deemed in their best interest but the parents/legal guardians would not consent to the procedure.   

[Del Tachi]

The gall of debating whether a 10-year-old girl can provide “meaningfully informed consent” to an abortion is so sickening I can’t even describe it. Do you think she’s able to give meaningfully informed consent to having a baby?

Facts matter.  You don't "provide consent" to have a baby, do you?

Abortion is a medical procedure that carries certain risks like any other.  The procedure is very medically invasive compared to the type of care a healthy 10-year old would typically be receiving.  Making sure the adults charged with affecting this decision are acting in the best interest of the child is an appropriate role for the state to play.

FWIW, I also believe this cuts in the opposite direction.  It would be acceptable for courts to order minor children receive medically induced abortions in cases where it is deemed in their best interest but the parents/legal guardians would not consent to the procedure.   

You know what else carries risks? Childbirth. For a ten-year-old girl. Why don’t you focus on that instead of pathetically trying to salvage what’s left of your dignity?

Yes, which is why I said courts should be able to waive parental consent laws for minors at risk.  Being 10 years old would almost certainly qualify for a reason to order an abortion over the objections of the parents. 

[Del Tachi]

I honestly don't know which aspect of this story is the worst:

- A 10 year old girl was raped by a 27 year old man
- Conservatives have abolished the right to abortion, and Ohio immediately banned it
- The 10 year old was therefore forced to be taken across state lines to another state to get an abortion; that state also being hostile to abortion rights
- Conservatives didn't believe this story even happened, with multiple talking heads on Fox calling it a lie
- When shown to be true, conservatives pivot to falsely accusing the abortion doctor of not following protocol (she did, of course), the real purpose of which is to doxx her and hope she gets attacked for doing her job at all
- The entire 'debate' over whether a 10 year old should be forced to give birth is reignited again

And yet somehow Democrats are the ones sprinting to the fringes?  What the actual f—k is happening in this country?

This aspect of the narrative you've crafted is a lie.  The abortionist in this case, Dr. Caitlin Bernhard, chose to go on record weeks ago to the Indianpolis Star with this story.  It was only after this initial reporting that national media picked the story up.  You cannot be "doxxed" as an on-the-record source for a story, lmao

[Del Tachi]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1547706187361107970

And the thread never heard from DT again.....

What are you asking me to defend?  If there's no evidence of any wrongdoing then there shouldn't be an investigation.  When did I ever disagree?

I'm happy the abortionist reported the case as she should be required to under the law.  Too bad it was fellow posters of your color who thought (back on page one) that this was way too much of an ask...