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« on: July 13, 2022, 06:23:23 PM »
« edited: July 13, 2022, 06:28:55 PM by wbrocks67 »

Hobbs (D) 47%
Lake (R) 38%

Hobbs (D) 44%
Robson (R) 39%

Target Smart / Research AZ
704 LV, 6/28-30
https://targetsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/TSPolling_AZSW_Gov-Memo_2022.07.05.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2022, 06:34:31 PM »

Hobbs is gonna be Gov
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2022, 06:42:25 PM »

I want to ing scream at these polls with 15%+ undecided

It’s infuriating

We know for an absolute fact that both candidates in Arizona will get more than 45%, so what the hell is the point of releasing this?
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2022, 06:58:10 PM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2022, 07:15:15 PM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)

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I recommend you start this plan immediately.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2022, 09:52:11 PM »

lol
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2022, 01:07:44 AM »


Your R nut map will never happen even 538 has given D's an even chance in the Senate Rs will never get 54 Senate seats and 250H seats
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2022, 06:09:06 AM »

I'm an optimist, but I'm also a realist. I agree that Hobbs will get 47%.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2022, 06:11:40 AM »

I'm an optimist, but I'm also a realist. I agree that Hobbs will get 47%.

Lol, and Lake like Vance is gonna get 30%

Bidej won Maricopa CTY, it's not unlikely we win this race
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2022, 07:28:34 AM »

I mean, it’s a pattern.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2022, 08:09:58 AM »

You cannot convince me she's actually ahead of Robson, but it's obvious that those Maricopa county college ed voters are not going to go back to the republicans just because the republican isn't a trumpist hack
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2022, 03:23:09 PM »

Well, the 47% may end up being correct.

I think Hobbs has definitely a chance, though I'd rate this as Lean Republican until we see more polls, get closer to election day and Hobbs being at 49-50%.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2022, 04:24:54 PM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)

I mean this in the nicest way possible, and you are certainly not the only offender in this regard, but why even engage with these polls if your electoral predictions are more religious than scientific? This poll could say anything from Lake+10 to Hobbs+50 and I doubt it'd change your outlook much. That's fine, I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but why engage with the polling if it's meaningless to you?
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2022, 04:34:34 PM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)

I mean this in the nicest way possible, and you are certainly not the only offender in this regard, but why even engage with these polls if your electoral predictions are more religious than scientific? This poll could say anything from Lake+10 to Hobbs+50 and I doubt it'd change your outlook much. That's fine, I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but why engage with the polling if it's meaningless to you?

Give me one good reason I should believe this poll. Four cycles in a row they've underestimated the GOP.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2022, 04:38:32 PM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)

I mean this in the nicest way possible, and you are certainly not the only offender in this regard, but why even engage with these polls if your electoral predictions are more religious than scientific? This poll could say anything from Lake+10 to Hobbs+50 and I doubt it'd change your outlook much. That's fine, I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but why engage with the polling if it's meaningless to you?

Give me one good reason I should believe this poll. Four cycles in a row they've underestimated the GOP.

Ducey was a Maverick and Lake supports insurrection she said she won't certify of Biden wins AZ Ducey was censored for certifying Biden and Kelly that's why Lake is not a Maverick


Ducey is a Maverick and won overwhelming he is friends with Cindy MCCain

Just like Mastriano said he won't certify and Craig whom is off the ballot said he won't certify BIDEN
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2022, 05:35:36 PM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)

I mean this in the nicest way possible, and you are certainly not the only offender in this regard, but why even engage with these polls if your electoral predictions are more religious than scientific? This poll could say anything from Lake+10 to Hobbs+50 and I doubt it'd change your outlook much. That's fine, I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but why engage with the polling if it's meaningless to you?

Give me one good reason I should believe this poll. Four cycles in a row they've underestimated the GOP.

I'm not asking you to believe it; God knows I don't think Hobbs is going to win by 9 or 5, or even that she's favored. My only point is that it seems odd to me from your perspective to even bother with these polls, because you seem to axiomatically believe them to be seriously flawed and therefore not worth the time of day. Like I said, I don't think Hobbs is favored, but polls with her pretty close to 50 as a non-incumbent do make me think she has a shot and factor into my analysis as one of many things helping to illuminate the state of the race. In your case, it seems that polls are completely meaningless to you, so why bother with them at all?
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2022, 07:11:30 PM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)

I mean this in the nicest way possible, and you are certainly not the only offender in this regard, but why even engage with these polls if your electoral predictions are more religious than scientific? This poll could say anything from Lake+10 to Hobbs+50 and I doubt it'd change your outlook much. That's fine, I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but why engage with the polling if it's meaningless to you?

Give me one good reason I should believe this poll. Four cycles in a row they've underestimated the GOP.

Arizona polling averages have not been too bad. They nailed the 2020 president average and also got Kelly's vote share nearly correct that year too.

Meanwhile Sinema outdid the polling in 2018, so you're wrong in what you're saying anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2022, 04:18:30 AM »
« Edited: July 15, 2022, 08:41:39 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Look at the compiled map they think AZ is a Lean R state no it's not
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2022, 09:11:21 AM »

Not happening. This race is Likely R, Hobbs will run behind Kelly (who's already an underdog.)

I mean this in the nicest way possible, and you are certainly not the only offender in this regard, but why even engage with these polls if your electoral predictions are more religious than scientific? This poll could say anything from Lake+10 to Hobbs+50 and I doubt it'd change your outlook much. That's fine, I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but why engage with the polling if it's meaningless to you?

Give me one good reason I should believe this poll. Four cycles in a row they've underestimated the GOP.

Arizona polling averages have not been too bad. They nailed the 2020 president average and also got Kelly's vote share nearly correct that year too.

Meanwhile Sinema outdid the polling in 2018, so you're wrong in what you're saying anyway.

You must understand that by all appearances, SnowLabrador thinks every poll is bad for Democrats: if it shows the Republican up, it means the Democrat is in trouble; if it shows the Democrat up, it means the poll is flawed (or polls in general are flawed). 

I don't know why he bothers to follow polls either.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2022, 10:14:33 AM »

Some users think that certain states belong to Rs as I said the compiled prediction shows what  users thinking
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2022, 10:36:11 AM »

I mean, Lake really could lose. 
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2022, 11:13:04 AM »


Yup, though it seems like her prospects of being nominated are dwindling?

Still think this race is Lean R due to fundamentals, especially since it's still plenty of time and Hobbs is not at 50%.
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2022, 11:43:51 AM »


Yup, though it seems like her prospects of being nominated are dwindling?

Still think this race is Lean R due to fundamentals, especially since it's still plenty of time and Hobbs is not at 50%.

Neither is Lake at 50% did you know Christie in 2009 was polling under 50% and won against Corzine he was polling 49/44%
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2022, 03:27:23 PM »

If Delta 8 or 9 is legal in your state/county, I highly recommend you take some to take the edge off. It’s Friday.
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