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« on: July 10, 2022, 12:36:33 AM »
« edited: July 10, 2022, 12:45:51 AM by E-Dawg »

Examples that come to mind:
John W. Davis (1924 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936, 1940, and 1944
Al Smith (1928 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936 and 1940
George McGovern (1972 Dem Nominee) voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 (this one still makes no sense to me)
George HW Bush voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016

Are there any other examples? I know that Grover Cleveland supported 3rd party candidate John Palmer in 1896, but I don't know who he supported in 1900.

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2022, 12:41:58 AM »
« Edited: July 10, 2022, 12:47:00 AM by Compromising Your Future to the City Council of Bethesda, MD »

George McGovern voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 (this one still makes no sense to me)

because jimmy peanuts was a scary fundie

This isn't a Presidential nominee, of course, but I feel obliged to say something here about Insane New South Swamp Creature William Donald Schaefer being too much so to even endorse Bubba in '92–claiming to have a strong rapport with HW–and thereafter his performative feuding with his successor as governor, Parris "Ayatollah" Glendening (very unfairly maligned in his time even if his legacy is still rather mixed).
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2022, 02:09:16 AM »


George McGovern (1972 Dem Nominee) voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 (this one still makes no sense to me)



Jimmy Carter was among those who did what they could to make sure George McGovern would not win election to the presidency of the United States.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2022, 03:50:01 AM »

Shrub and Mittens voted for Nobody and their wife respectively in ‘16.


Jimmy Carter was among those who did what they could to make sure George McGovern would not win election to the presidency of the United States.

Thank you both for saving my phalanges the laborious task of penning another epistle on how the New Deal Coalition’s atomization pioneered the Battle Royale genre.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2022, 02:46:19 PM »

Examples that come to mind:
John W. Davis (1924 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936, 1940, and 1944
Al Smith (1928 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936 and 1940
George McGovern (1972 Dem Nominee) voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 (this one still makes no sense to me)
George HW Bush voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016

Are there any other examples? I know that Grover Cleveland supported 3rd party candidate John Palmer in 1896, but I don't know who he supported in 1900.


In addition to the ones you listed, John W. Davis also voted for Ike in 1952. He even met with him personally.

Source: nytimes.com/1952/10/23/archives/eisenhower-gets-support-of-davis-24-democratic-candidate-for.html

Also, while not technically their party's nominees, I looked into how Strom Thurmond and George Wallace voted after '48 and '68.

Thurmond after 1948 voted for Ike in 1952, South Carolina's unpledged slate in 1956, and the Republican nominee from 1964 onward. The only one I couldn't find for him was 1960. I suspect privately he might have voted for Kennedy, though I am quite unsure.

George Wallace after 1968 voted for Nixon in 1972, Carter in 1976, Bush in 1992, and Dole in 1996. I couldn't find how he voted in the 1980s, but I would be surprised if he didn't vote for Carter in 1980. Very unsure about 1984 and 1988 for him.

Sources:
Wallace for Nixon 1972: johngschmitz.com/_files/koplinski.pdf
Thurmond for Ford 1976: livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1976/strom-thurmond
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2022, 08:35:56 PM »

Not a nominee but Gene McCarthy voted Reagan in 1980.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2022, 08:49:13 PM »

Besides Trump himself, Bob Dole is the only nominee of either party to vote for Trump.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2022, 08:57:34 PM »

Besides Trump himself, Bob Dole is the only nominee of either party to vote for Trump.

Is this actually confirmed anywhere? It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case, but I didn't think all of their votes were public knowledge.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2022, 09:16:20 PM »

Besides Trump himself, Bob Dole is the only nominee of either party to vote for Trump.

Is this actually confirmed anywhere? It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case, but I didn't think all of their votes were public knowledge.
HW Bush - Clinton
Dole - Trump
Bush 43 - left his ballot blank in 2016 and wrote in Condi Rice in 2020
McCain - wrote in Lindsey Graham
Romney - lead the Never Trump movement
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2022, 11:48:13 AM »

I'm actually more interested in the VP nominees, there is Joe Lieberman who voted for McCain in 2008.

Also, I wonder about John Sparkman. I'm sure he voted for Stevenson again and Kennedy, and he probably voted for Alabama's unpledged slate in 1964, and Wallace in 1968, but idk about after that.

Finally, there's Henry Wallace, who voted for Ike twice and Nixon 1960.

Also Breckinridge obviously voted for himself over Douglas in 1860.

Andrew Johnson probably voted D in 1868 and 1872.

On top of that, I honestly have a hard time believing that Dan Quayle, Dick Cheney, and Paul Ryan would vote for Trump again in 2024. They did vote for him in 2020 though.

abc15.com/news/national/former-vice-president-dan-quayle-talks-president-trump-2020-election-part-2

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/dick-cheney-trump-2020-fundraiser-campaign-republican-party-establishment-a9064666.html

newsmax.com/politics/rand-paul-liz-cheney-conservative-congress/2020/07/22/id/978439/

twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/1105848213284814848?cxt=HHwWgIC8henF4dgeAAAA

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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2022, 09:52:18 AM »

George McGovern voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 (this one still makes no sense to me)

because jimmy peanuts was a scary fundie

This isn't a Presidential nominee, of course, but I feel obliged to say something here about Insane New South Swamp Creature William Donald Schaefer being too much so to even endorse Bubba in '92–claiming to have a strong rapport with HW–and thereafter his performative feuding with his successor as governor, Parris "Ayatollah" Glendening (very unfairly maligned in his time even if his legacy is still rather mixed).

I don’t think it was because Carter was a fundie but more just revenge because Carter had been part of a cadre of Dems working to thwart McGovern’s nomination in 72.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2022, 09:53:32 AM »

Wouldn’t surprise me if Eisenhower secretly voted for LBJ in 64 or LBJ himself voted for Nixon in 72.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2022, 03:44:22 PM »

Wouldn’t surprise me if Eisenhower secretly voted for LBJ in 64 or LBJ himself voted for Nixon in 72.
I agree on LBJ for Nixon, but I think Eisenhower was truthful about suppporting Goldwater since he really liked the also very conservative Reagan, advising him and supporting him behind the scenes. (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/unearthing-the-eisenhower-reagan-connection)
There's also the fact that he did an ad supporting Goldwater where they appeared together (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lly3jANwMZM) which I doubt he would have done if he didn't actually support him.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2022, 05:07:00 AM »

I still don't get why Henry Wallace voted Republican later in life? 
I wonder if Truman voted for Nixon in '72. While he hated him, I doubt he'd be a fan of McGovern.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2022, 01:15:54 PM »

Examples that come to mind:
John W. Davis (1924 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936, 1940, and 1944
Al Smith (1928 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936 and 1940
George McGovern (1972 Dem Nominee) voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 (this one still makes no sense to me)
George HW Bush voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016

Are there any other examples? I know that Grover Cleveland supported 3rd party candidate John Palmer in 1896, but I don't know who he supported in 1900.


In addition to the ones you listed, John W. Davis also voted for Ike in 1952. He even met with him personally.

Source: nytimes.com/1952/10/23/archives/eisenhower-gets-support-of-davis-24-democratic-candidate-for.html

Also, while not technically their party's nominees, I looked into how Strom Thurmond and George Wallace voted after '48 and '68.

Thurmond after 1948 voted for Ike in 1952, South Carolina's unpledged slate in 1956, and the Republican nominee from 1964 onward. The only one I couldn't find for him was 1960. I suspect privately he might have voted for Kennedy, though I am quite unsure.

George Wallace after 1968 voted for Nixon in 1972, Carter in 1976, Bush in 1992, and Dole in 1996. I couldn't find how he voted in the 1980s, but I would be surprised if he didn't vote for Carter in 1980. Very unsure about 1984 and 1988 for him.

Sources:
Wallace for Nixon 1972: johngschmitz.com/_files/koplinski.pdf
Thurmond for Ford 1976: livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1976/strom-thurmond
didn’t Wallace imply toward the end of his life he voted republican?
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2022, 01:17:15 PM »

Not a nominee but I am certain newsom voted for trump in 2020 for his own ambitions or at the very least wanted trump to win In 2020 for 2024
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2022, 02:57:06 PM »

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Millard Filmore yet.

After he ran as a third party on the Know Nothing ticket, which was supported by what was left of the Whig party, he became a Democrat in 1857 and voted for New York's Democratic fusion ticket in 1860 which had electors for Douglas, Breckinridge, and Bell. He personally wanted Bell to win.

In 1864, he voted for McClellan, and I think it's safe to say he voted for Seymour and Greeley as well.

Also, both Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan supported Breckinridge in 1860.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2022, 02:59:22 PM »

Not a nominee but I am certain newsom voted for trump in 2020 for his own ambitions or at the very least wanted trump to win In 2020 for 2024
Um, no.

twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1321974560040759298
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2022, 03:09:20 PM »

I still don't get why Henry Wallace voted Republican later in life? 
I wonder if Truman voted for Nixon in '72. While he hated him, I doubt he'd be a fan of McGovern.
Henry Wallace was under investigation for being a Communist, and later came to admit he was wrong about the Soviet Union in 1950.

He went with LBJ in 1964 though.
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2022, 03:34:10 PM »

Examples that come to mind:
John W. Davis (1924 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936, 1940, and 1944
Al Smith (1928 Dem Nominee) voted GOP for President in 1936 and 1940
George McGovern (1972 Dem Nominee) voted for Gerald Ford in 1976 (this one still makes no sense to me)
George HW Bush voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016

Are there any other examples? I know that Grover Cleveland supported 3rd party candidate John Palmer in 1896, but I don't know who he supported in 1900.


In addition to the ones you listed, John W. Davis also voted for Ike in 1952. He even met with him personally.

Source: nytimes.com/1952/10/23/archives/eisenhower-gets-support-of-davis-24-democratic-candidate-for.html

Also, while not technically their party's nominees, I looked into how Strom Thurmond and George Wallace voted after '48 and '68.

Thurmond after 1948 voted for Ike in 1952, South Carolina's unpledged slate in 1956, and the Republican nominee from 1964 onward. The only one I couldn't find for him was 1960. I suspect privately he might have voted for Kennedy, though I am quite unsure.

George Wallace after 1968 voted for Nixon in 1972, Carter in 1976, Bush in 1992, and Dole in 1996. I couldn't find how he voted in the 1980s, but I would be surprised if he didn't vote for Carter in 1980. Very unsure about 1984 and 1988 for him.

Sources:
Wallace for Nixon 1972: johngschmitz.com/_files/koplinski.pdf
Thurmond for Ford 1976: livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1976/strom-thurmond
didn’t Wallace imply toward the end of his life he voted republican?
He said in a 1996 interview that he would vote for Dole and that he voted for Bush in 1992.
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2022, 07:50:21 AM »

I still don't get why Henry Wallace voted Republican later in life? 
I wonder if Truman voted for Nixon in '72. While he hated him, I doubt he'd be a fan of McGovern.
Henry Wallace was under investigation for being a Communist, and later came to admit he was wrong about the Soviet Union in 1950.

He went with LBJ in 1964 though.

Oh, so he was just trying to appear less liberal due to investigations?
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2022, 08:58:20 AM »

Wouldn’t surprise me if Eisenhower secretly voted for LBJ in 64 or LBJ himself voted for Nixon in 72.
I agree on LBJ for Nixon, but I think Eisenhower was truthful about suppporting Goldwater since he really liked the also very conservative Reagan, advising him and supporting him behind the scenes. (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/unearthing-the-eisenhower-reagan-connection)
There's also the fact that he did an ad supporting Goldwater where they appeared together (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lly3jANwMZM) which I doubt he would have done if he didn't actually support him.

LBJ hated Nixon's guts and would never have voted for him.
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2022, 11:14:20 AM »

I know the thread is mostly about presidential elections, but leaving those elections aside, Barry Goldwater endorsed a democrat for a house seat in Arizona a few years after retiring from the senate
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2022, 12:38:35 PM »
« Edited: July 19, 2022, 01:26:21 PM by goin bezerk »

I still don't get why Henry Wallace voted Republican later in life?  
I wonder if Truman voted for Nixon in '72. While he hated him, I doubt he'd be a fan of McGovern.
Henry Wallace was under investigation for being a Communist, and later came to admit he was wrong about the Soviet Union in 1950.

He went with LBJ in 1964 though.

Oh, so he was just trying to appear less liberal due to investigations?
The investigation were a part of it, but I think his flip on the Soviet Union and Korea was actually genuine. He left his own Progressive party over the issue and wanted to see North Korea fail.

I also find it highly unlikely that John Sparkman voted for McGovern based on this article.
nytimes.com/1972/11/08/archives/sparkman-overwhelms-blount-in-alabama-voting-for-senate.html
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2022, 04:56:22 PM »

I still don't get why Henry Wallace voted Republican later in life? 
I wonder if Truman voted for Nixon in '72. While he hated him, I doubt he'd be a fan of McGovern.
Henry Wallace was under investigation for being a Communist, and later came to admit he was wrong about the Soviet Union in 1950.

He went with LBJ in 1964 though.
He did end up endorsing Ike in 1956, fwiw, although that's probably more due to his personal relationship w/ Eisenhower.
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