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« Reply #675 on: August 22, 2022, 08:37:23 AM »

Truss’s best (I’d say only) chance to get a win is to call a snap election.

I'd disagree and say Truss's best (only) chance is to just hold on and hope the economic picture looks better in autumn 2024. It's not a great plan but surely calling an election this year as everything is at it's worst would be doomed to fail. Any honeymoon bounce would immediately disappear once an election was called.

The economic situation isn’t going to improve with John Redwood in the Treasury.

Yeah things are unlikely to get notably better in 2 years, but still, the Tories best hope is to gamble on the future. Any honeymoon would quickly fade (like May's) on campaign and we would be back where we are now. Right now is a fine electoral position, but not if you are a Tory of course. Plus if one happens to be in the 'inevitable loss' camp, waiting gives you 2 more years of power.

That all said, if the rumors about Boris are true, I'm sure he will be lobbying hard for that early election, cause a Tory loss means potentially only a brief time in the wilderness. And it's Truss, so no idea if she'll resist this call....
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« Reply #676 on: August 22, 2022, 08:48:55 AM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?
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« Reply #677 on: August 22, 2022, 09:54:53 AM »

Inflation was today forecasted to hit 18% early next year. The NHS is a slow moving car crash and it’s only the Summer. Why would you call an early election?
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« Reply #678 on: August 22, 2022, 12:44:03 PM »

Labour Party predicts double-digit poll bounce for new PM Truss

I just know the sickos will freak out about this, Starmer just needs to persevere and he should be in a great position to win the next general election.

This is obvious, everyone gets a honeymoon bounce - even Kim Campbell got a honeymoon bounce. Truss is unlikeable & dogmatic enough that it’ll wear off quickly - though the article isn’t wrong, Truss’s best (I’d say only) chance to get a win is to call a snap election.

There’s “damning by faint praise” and then there’s this. Oof.
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« Reply #679 on: August 22, 2022, 02:40:32 PM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

well ACKCHUALLY as australia indicates Global Trends™ indicate a move towards a more ideologically diverse coalition against the radical right including rich fyigm suburbanites voting for astroturfed crass sectionalism so truss would be the british kim campbell (also on account of the public hating girlbosses)
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« Reply #680 on: August 22, 2022, 04:42:18 PM »

The problem is once you become PM especially during a crisis and one with bad polling for the Government is you become convinced that one more policy launch, one more change, one more announcement will make the difference- along with extra time.

Equally I feel it really does need to be right away if you do- May’s mistake was waiting a year, but equally there was a reason- who wants to launch an election when you’ve only just got the keys to the car?
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« Reply #681 on: August 22, 2022, 05:12:07 PM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

well ACKCHUALLY as australia indicates Global Trends™ indicate a move towards a more ideologically diverse coalition against the radical right including rich fyigm suburbanites voting for astroturfed crass sectionalism so truss would be the british kim campbell (also on account of the public hating girlbosses)

“These are not leftists, but teal independents!” and the multitude around repeated, “Teal! Teal!” The Pundits screamed out, “LABOR MONCRIEFF” and the priests of Atlas, conforming in terror to the needs of the Totalizing Global Trends, mumbled their Leipian formula: “Pour forth post-materialism! decay!” No sooner were the victims placed on the verge of the aperture than they vanished, like a drop of water on a red-hot plate, and whiffs of white smoke curled up through the scarlet glow.
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« Reply #682 on: August 22, 2022, 05:15:35 PM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

John Turner wasn't a MP when he became PM, so he either had to find a safe seat for by-election or call an early election.
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« Reply #683 on: August 22, 2022, 05:17:54 PM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

well ACKCHUALLY as australia indicates Global Trends™ indicate a move towards a more ideologically diverse coalition against the radical right including rich fyigm suburbanites voting for astroturfed crass sectionalism so truss would be the british kim campbell (also on account of the public hating girlbosses)

“These are not leftists, but teal independents!” and the multitude around repeated, “Teal! Teal!” The Pundits screamed out, “LABOR MONCRIEFF” and the priests of Atlas, conforming in terror to the needs of the Totalizing Global Trends, mumbled their Leipian formula: “Pour forth post-materialism! decay!” No sooner were the victims placed on the verge of the aperture than they vanished, like a drop of water on a red-hot plate, and whiffs of white smoke curled up through the scarlet glow.

david poo cock, the haruspex reading the entrails of chickens to predict how a teal independent would do in toowoomba
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« Reply #684 on: August 22, 2022, 05:42:09 PM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

well ACKCHUALLY as australia indicates Global Trends™ indicate a move towards a more ideologically diverse coalition against the radical right including rich fyigm suburbanites voting for astroturfed crass sectionalism so truss would be the british kim campbell (also on account of the public hating girlbosses)

“These are not leftists, but teal independents!” and the multitude around repeated, “Teal! Teal!” The Pundits screamed out, “LABOR MONCRIEFF” and the priests of Atlas, conforming in terror to the needs of the Totalizing Global Trends, mumbled their Leipian formula: “Pour forth post-materialism! decay!” No sooner were the victims placed on the verge of the aperture than they vanished, like a drop of water on a red-hot plate, and whiffs of white smoke curled up through the scarlet glow.

david poo cock, the haruspex reading the entrails of chickens to predict how a teal independent would do in toowoomba

moar liek thiel independents amijao
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« Reply #685 on: August 22, 2022, 05:50:09 PM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

well ACKCHUALLY as australia indicates Global Trends™ indicate a move towards a more ideologically diverse coalition against the radical right including rich fyigm suburbanites voting for astroturfed crass sectionalism so truss would be the british kim campbell (also on account of the public hating girlbosses)

“These are not leftists, but teal independents!” and the multitude around repeated, “Teal! Teal!” The Pundits screamed out, “LABOR MONCRIEFF” and the priests of Atlas, conforming in terror to the needs of the Totalizing Global Trends, mumbled their Leipian formula: “Pour forth post-materialism! decay!” No sooner were the victims placed on the verge of the aperture than they vanished, like a drop of water on a red-hot plate, and whiffs of white smoke curled up through the scarlet glow.

david poo cock, the haruspex reading the entrails of chickens to predict how a teal independent would do in toowoomba

moar liek thiel independents amijao

Pierre Poilievre and Allegra Spender linked up! Need it or keep it?
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« Reply #686 on: August 23, 2022, 08:56:35 AM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

John Turner wasn't a MP when he became PM, so he either had to find a safe seat for by-election or call an early election.

He very clearly made the wrong choice then.
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« Reply #687 on: August 23, 2022, 11:53:53 AM »

In the end, no one wants to be the British John Turner, do they?

John Turner wasn't a MP when he became PM, so he either had to find a safe seat for by-election or call an early election.

He very clearly made the wrong choice then.

PRIME MINISTER THE RIGHT HONOURABLE THE EARL OF HOME calls an early election instead of finding that seat in Perthshire, gets btfo a year early. Sad!
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« Reply #688 on: August 30, 2022, 05:59:14 AM »

Truss pulling out of an interview with Nick Robinson - something else from the Johnson playbook.
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« Reply #689 on: August 30, 2022, 07:05:27 AM »

Truss pulling out of an interview with Nick Robinson - something else from the Johnson playbook.

But under circumstances so different that doing so will have actual consequences. A very stupid and foolish decision: if she didn't want to do the interview she should not have booked it.
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« Reply #690 on: September 01, 2022, 05:28:22 AM »

The final leadership hustings last night, notable for Truss saying she "would consider" scrapping speed limits for motorists. Normally, telling some crank in your own party that you "will consider" something is a way of shutting them up and signalling to the "sensible" people that nothing will actually happen.

But given that its Truss, who knows?
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« Reply #691 on: September 01, 2022, 11:04:39 AM »

The final leadership hustings last night, notable for Truss saying she "would consider" scrapping speed limits for motorists. Normally, telling some crank in your own party that you "will consider" something is a way of shutting them up and signalling to the "sensible" people that nothing will actually happen.

But given that its Truss, who knows?

Ah, so May is gone but Truss is going to defund the police again. #woke
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« Reply #692 on: September 03, 2022, 04:50:52 AM »

Voting closed yesterday.

The winner announced around lunchtime on Monday - they become our new PM the following day.
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« Reply #693 on: September 03, 2022, 01:30:11 PM »

Goodness I wonder who will win?
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« Reply #694 on: September 03, 2022, 01:41:11 PM »

Boris on write-ins.
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« Reply #695 on: September 04, 2022, 04:21:22 AM »
« Edited: September 04, 2022, 05:07:05 AM by CumbrianLefty »


It would certainly be interesting to know the number of spoiled ballots - and indeed how they compare with previous contests both in the Tories and indeed other parties.
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« Reply #696 on: September 04, 2022, 09:54:03 AM »

Sunak has effectively conceded, per the BBC.
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« Reply #697 on: September 04, 2022, 09:56:42 AM »

Sunak has effectively conceded, per the BBC.

Yep: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62787394

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Rishi Sunak has signalled he believes he has lost the Tory leadership race, telling the BBC his job "now is just to support a Conservative government".

Speaking to Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, the ex-chancellor also said he would continue as an MP if he does not become prime minister next week.

However, he did not rule out running again to be Conservative Party leader.

The winner of the contest to replace Boris Johnson as leader is due to be announced on Monday.
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« Reply #698 on: September 04, 2022, 10:23:15 AM »

Could've conceded a few weeks ago, would've saved everyone a lot of time which should've been put to better use.
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« Reply #699 on: September 04, 2022, 03:27:44 PM »

Could've conceded a few weeks ago, would've saved everyone a lot of time which should've been put to better use.

Removing one month to the term of the crazy anti-worker lady was the best thing he could do.
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