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« on: July 03, 2022, 08:18:43 PM »



I have to think undecideds break towards Budd, but this race will not be a blowout.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2022, 08:24:54 PM »

Hm, didn't expect this result from Trafalgar of all places. Could be Roe effect here, where unfortunately may boost Beasley a bit, but still more likely than not won't be enough, ugh.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2022, 08:27:46 PM »

This is a Likely R race, and no poll can convince me otherwise. It probably won't be double digits, but I would be utterly flabbergasted if Beasley won.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2022, 08:29:46 PM »

Hm, didn't expect this result from Trafalgar of all places. Could be Roe effect here, where unfortunately may boost Beasley a bit, but still more likely than not won't be enough, ugh.

trafalgar was good in NC in 2020

I think this race will end 53-47 or so
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2022, 08:30:37 PM »

This is a Likely R race, and no poll can convince me otherwise. It probably won't be double digits, but I would be utterly flabbergasted if Beasley won.

Budd is a good candidate with little to no baggage

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2022, 08:46:10 PM »

I basically agree with the OP, Budd will probably win with a narrow margin, which is unsurprising given the Democrats’ high floor in NC, but given how hard it’s been for them to break through, it’s difficult to believe that this will be the year where they do so.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2022, 09:17:31 PM »

Interesting, no comments about how Trafalgar is the “gold standard”? Smiley

Anyway, I’d be very surprised if it were this close, though Budd +2.5 is more believable than Beasley winning.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2022, 09:39:06 PM »
« Edited: July 03, 2022, 09:46:14 PM by Larry's Crystal Ball »

Likely R. Trafalgar is a pretty good pollster but this is a D+3 sample
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2022, 11:08:34 PM »

Ha, Beasley is gonna win his lead shrank Cunningham only lost by 0.5 percent, less than Biden lost the state, we're gonna win this race EDay is after Labor Day
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2022, 11:23:40 PM »

Likely R. Trafalgar is a pretty good pollster but this is a D+3 sample

LOL at a Trafalgar poll being spun as too Democratic.
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2022, 11:55:44 PM »

No reason for the GOP to worry about this one. This one of the few races where they didn’t nominate a weirdo. Should be reasonably close to a Generic R. Beasley is a good candidate though.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2022, 12:01:58 AM »
« Edited: July 04, 2022, 02:13:42 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

3 pts is MOE it is a reason to worry it's supposed to be a red wave yr and NC isn't supposed to be close, neither is AZ and Rs are losing 47/41
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2022, 12:54:24 AM »

I have no doubt that Budd will win but it shouldn't be this close. SCOTUS really screwed things up for the GOP.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2022, 02:05:37 AM »
« Edited: July 04, 2022, 02:13:27 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Rs are gonna LOSE since Roe and this race is the top of the iceberg in what's gonna happen

All these polls have been taken after Roe been reverse and users still think it's an R wave after invasion of privacy of everyone has been reversed
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2022, 03:11:51 AM »

One thing that's worth keeping in mind: Budd looks like an electoral god compared to Oz, Walker, and Masters, but in an absolute sense he's pretty average. Probably about the same as Beasley, if not a little weaker. The fact that he looks so good right now says a lot more about Republican candidates in other states than it does about him, and I don't expect him to meaningfully overperform or anything.
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2022, 04:46:53 AM »

Rs are gonna LOSE since Roe and this race is the top of the iceberg in what's gonna happen

All these polls have been taken after Roe been reverse and users still think it's an R wave after invasion of privacy of everyone has been reversed
LOL, Abortion is only running 4th or 5th Nationally as Issue. Most Americans are sick & tired of the Nations high Inflation, Gas Prices, the Economy, you name it and Biden blaming Putin for it and not himself.

Democrats haven't won a Federal Race for the Presidency or Senate since 2008.

They only won the Governor Race in 2016 & 2020 and Cooper isn't on the Ballot.

North Carolina is a State where Democrats failed on the Recruitment Level. Had they convinced Roy Cooper to run he might have won.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2022, 06:07:07 AM »

It's wave insurance if you look at my signature but 3 pts is within the MOE and the 3 rd party candidate was kicked off the ballot

On Act blue new flash they have Demings down by 2 46/48, Cunningham lost by 0.5 and Biden lost by 1.5 and Trump only carried NC in 2016 over Hillary by 3

The Change polls that show all incumbentts safe and the Fabio polls show a 52/48 Senate netting WI and PA Fetterman up 50/44 and Barnes lead by 2 and Warnock leads 48/44
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2022, 07:07:00 AM »

If it’s this close this year, this state becomes ground zero in 2024.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2022, 07:26:40 AM »

It will be close Cunningham lost by less than Biden 0.25
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2022, 08:38:10 AM »

If it’s this close this year, this state becomes ground zero in 2024.

I'm skeptical the national environment is better in 2024 than it was in 2020, which would be kind of a requirement for NC to flip.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2022, 03:46:34 PM »

If it’s this close this year, this state becomes ground zero in 2024.

I'm skeptical the national environment is better in 2024 than it was in 2020, which would be kind of a requirement for NC to flip.

If NC is shifting from Lean R to Tilt R, maybe it’s doable in a nuetralish environment.
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2022, 02:40:48 PM »

Seems about right. Nothing of note here.
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2022, 03:31:11 PM »

Closer than I would expect, but not out of the question.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2022, 08:27:50 AM »

Likely R. Trafalgar is a pretty good pollster but this is a D+3 sample

LOL at a Trafalgar poll being spun as too Democratic.
To be fair, it has been too democratic occasionally, but that was in some midwestern states I think
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2022, 08:29:26 AM »

I have no doubt that Budd will win but it shouldn't be this close. SCOTUS really screwed things up for the GOP.
No they didn't! Republicans can deny they support the more extreme restrictions and then pass them after they get elected. This will hurt them more in 2024 imo
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