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« on: June 28, 2022, 11:55:00 AM »

US would become bluer if we do that, and Texas used to be Mexican.
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2022, 12:14:59 PM »

Why just stop at Texas?
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2022, 12:17:33 PM »

It isn’t in either working class’s best interest for this trade to occur.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2022, 05:30:11 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2022, 06:30:50 PM »

US would become bluer if we do that, and Texas used to be Mexican.

Trump would only net a loss of about 0.8% (600k) from his national margin if Texas were ceded back to Mexico, so it's actually a pretty minor adjustment in terms of the popular vote.

Nixing TX also wouldn't have flipped the EV in 2016 nor any other historic GOP victory except Dubya's two wins
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2022, 10:37:56 PM »

Yeah, if you're down to do the same with California...another former part of Mexico.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2022, 10:48:03 PM »

Unironically it is a violation of the self-determination of current inhabitants to give land back to countries based on perceived injustices from many decades and centuries ago.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2022, 04:54:14 AM »

Makes we wonder how the state would vote in Mexican politics. I imagine the NH white population would vote for some minority interest party similar to the Bloc in Quebec, but what about the Hispanic population? My guess is conservative especially outside the big cities.

Unironically it is a violation of the self-determination of current inhabitants to give land back to countries based on perceived injustices from many decades and centuries ago.

This is a very serious thread. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2022, 05:08:26 AM »

Makes we wonder how the state would vote in Mexican politics. I imagine the NH white population would vote for some minority interest party similar to the Bloc in Quebec, but what about the Hispanic population? My guess is conservative especially outside the big cities.

Unironically it is a violation of the self-determination of current inhabitants to give land back to countries based on perceived injustices from many decades and centuries ago.

This is a very serious thread. Tongue
I think Texas would vote for PAN in general elections. It is probably the party that best fits them anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2022, 06:10:20 AM »

I doubt Texaco would be pleased.

US would become bluer if we do that, and Texas used to be Mexican.

Trump would only net a loss of about 0.8% (600k) from his national margin if Texas were ceded back to Mexico, so it's actually a pretty minor adjustment in terms of the popular vote.

Nixing TX also wouldn't have flipped the EV in 2016 nor any other historic GOP victory except Dubya's two wins

In every presidential election from 1992 to 2016 Texas provided the GOP candidate's biggest raw vote margin of any state; in 2020, it was Tennessee. Given the wide difference in the two states' populations, that should ideally put to bed the Dubya-era conception of Texas as the beating heart of the party...
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2022, 11:34:26 AM »

We actually should be aiming to absorb Mexico and Canada long-term
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2022, 11:37:03 AM »

Makes we wonder how the state would vote in Mexican politics. I imagine the NH white population would vote for some minority interest party similar to the Bloc in Quebec, but what about the Hispanic population? My guess is conservative especially outside the big cities.

Unironically it is a violation of the self-determination of current inhabitants to give land back to countries based on perceived injustices from many decades and centuries ago.

This is a very serious thread. Tongue
I think Texas would vote for PAN in general elections. It is probably the party that best fits them anyway.
The PAN party does seem pretty socially conservative even for Mexico.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2022, 06:19:09 PM »

Of course the name Texico already gives away that this was a joke thread kind off. Also even if taken seriously, it would strategically be an error as the state might become more competitive in the future and possibly flip. Although i don't think it would reliably be blue anytime soon and even if that turns out to be the case, it is hard to predict how a state will vote in a few decades or longer.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2022, 08:45:37 PM »

Remember that when Germany offered to help Mexico retake Texas and several other bordering states in 1917, Mexico declined the offer not only because it couldn’t win militarily, but also because it determined that managing a large English-speaking population within its borders would have been very difficult for them.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2022, 09:11:51 PM »

Remember that when Germany offered to help Mexico retake Texas and several other bordering states in 1917, Mexico declined the offer not only because it couldn’t win militarily, but also because it determined that managing a large English-speaking population within its borders would have been very difficult for them.
Was Texas before it became independent largely english or apanish speaking?
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2022, 11:40:47 PM »

Makes we wonder how the state would vote in Mexican politics. I imagine the NH white population would vote for some minority interest party similar to the Bloc in Quebec, but what about the Hispanic population? My guess is conservative especially outside the big cities.

Unironically it is a violation of the self-determination of current inhabitants to give land back to countries based on perceived injustices from many decades and centuries ago.

This is a very serious thread. Tongue
I think Texas would vote for PAN in general elections. It is probably the party that best fits them anyway.
The PAN party does seem pretty socially conservative even for Mexico.

I was thinking that Texas is easily wealthy by Mexican standards and class probably matters in Latin American elections than US ones.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2022, 12:35:06 PM »

Remember that when Germany offered to help Mexico retake Texas and several other bordering states in 1917, Mexico declined the offer not only because it couldn’t win militarily, but also because it determined that managing a large English-speaking population within its borders would have been very difficult for them.
Was Texas before it became independent largely english or apanish speaking?

Spaniards first colonized this area in the early 19th century before it broke away from Mexico in the middle of the century; however, by the early 20th century, several generations had passed since Texas officially joined the US, more than enough time for the area to become majority English speaking.
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2022, 01:59:50 PM »

Remember that when Germany offered to help Mexico retake Texas and several other bordering states in 1917, Mexico declined the offer not only because it couldn’t win militarily, but also because it determined that managing a large English-speaking population within its borders would have been very difficult for them.
Was Texas before it became independent largely english or apanish speaking?

Spaniards first colonized this area in the early 19th century before it broke away from Mexico in the middle of the century; however, by the early 20th century, several generations had passed since Texas officially joined the US, more than enough time for the area to become majority English speaking.

Texas was already majority-English speaking by the late 1820s, maybe 1830. 

Only about 3,500 Spanish-speaking people lived in Texas when it was first organized as a Mexican State in 1821.  The area was immediately favored as a destination for American (mostly Southern) freebooters, who quickly outnumbered the Spanish.  This, along with Mexico's 1829 abolition of slavery, was the primary cause of the Texas Rebellion.   
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2022, 05:23:03 AM »

Remember that when Germany offered to help Mexico retake Texas and several other bordering states in 1917, Mexico declined the offer not only because it couldn’t win militarily, but also because it determined that managing a large English-speaking population within its borders would have been very difficult for them.
Was Texas before it became independent largely english or apanish speaking?

Spaniards first colonized this area in the early 19th century before it broke away from Mexico in the middle of the century; however, by the early 20th century, several generations had passed since Texas officially joined the US, more than enough time for the area to become majority English speaking.

Texas was already majority-English speaking by the late 1820s, maybe 1830. 

Only about 3,500 Spanish-speaking people lived in Texas when it was first organized as a Mexican State in 1821.  The area was immediately favored as a destination for American (mostly Southern) freebooters, who quickly outnumbered the Spanish.  This, along with Mexico's 1829 abolition of slavery, was the primary cause of the Texas Rebellion.   
Illegal immigration from the north and east.
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2022, 07:33:45 AM »

Remember that when Germany offered to help Mexico retake Texas and several other bordering states in 1917, Mexico declined the offer not only because it couldn’t win militarily, but also because it determined that managing a large English-speaking population within its borders would have been very difficult for them.
Was Texas before it became independent largely english or apanish speaking?

Spaniards first colonized this area in the early 19th century before it broke away from Mexico in the middle of the century; however, by the early 20th century, several generations had passed since Texas officially joined the US, more than enough time for the area to become majority English speaking.

Texas was already majority-English speaking by the late 1820s, maybe 1830. 

Only about 3,500 Spanish-speaking people lived in Texas when it was first organized as a Mexican State in 1821.  The area was immediately favored as a destination for American (mostly Southern) freebooters, who quickly outnumbered the Spanish.  This, along with Mexico's 1829 abolition of slavery, was the primary cause of the Texas Rebellion.   

Really why there's a decent argument for the Mexican War being the worst war in American history--a war entirely for the purpose of expanding slave power.
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2022, 07:19:57 PM »

TX is in play for D's Beto is only 8 pts down he can win
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2022, 09:28:24 PM »

No, that would be horrible!

...for Mexico.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2022, 04:32:29 AM »

TX will go D eventually
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