Is anyone getting tired of the posts blaming men for Roe v Wade being overturned?

[MiddleRoad]

Im a straight male. I support abortion. I think Roe V Wade being overturned was a major mistake and overall a bad move for our country. I see all these angry posts from women blaming men - all men - rather than the older men who vote for anti abortion policies, or, more bluntly, the Supreme Court who ultimately made the decision. 83% of all men favor abortion being legal, either with restrictions or without any. It’s a shame that this is becoming a civil war between the genders when the real enemy is the Court.

[DaleCooper]

Anti-abortion men are intolerable, but it needs to be noted that church ladies tend to be the most immovably anti-abortion people on the planet. Pretty much all of the language that pro-lifers use about "babies being torn limb from limb!" (you read a lot of it on this website from people like Mr. Reactionary and fhtagn) is designed to make church ladies sob rather than to win over anyone who disagrees.

[Blue3]

I hadn't seen it even once, so it must just be your social circles that are blaming "all men" for this.

[Beet]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

[Ferguson97]

It doesn't really bother me. And I don't really think that I, as a man, am in a position to police how a woman expresses her frustration over losing her rights to bodily autonomy.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It doesn't really matter adoption has always been popular since Different Strokes in the 1989s because alot of people put off having kids till after 35 due to college and women fertility goes down after 30 that's why they only want embroyos of women under 35, and after 40 females go thru menapause ANYWAYS


But, this is gonna matter in the 22 elections the burden of traveling out of state to IL, CA and NY and Thomas is threatening to get rid of birth control, planned Parenthood was affirmed 6/3  Roberts and Kavanaugh affirmed it and Kennedy and Thomas was on the Minoriy with Alito and GORSUCH, but just the idea of that, is gonna hurt Rs, and then Vance wants to get rid of porn, it's not good to be obsessed but free speech

[Skill and Chance]

Fundamentally, this doesn't make sense. 

1.  There were no women on SCOTUS in 1973.  There are 3 now and 1 of them provided the decisive vote in favor of the full overturn.

2. More women than men have voted in every presidential election since 1984, covering the appointment of all current SCOTUS justices.

3.  Women outvote men more dramatically in Southern states than they do nationwide. 

Just doesn't make sense at any level of how this was decided!

[Hermit For Peace]

Fundamentally, this doesn't make sense. 

1.  There were no women on SCOTUS in 1973.  There are 3 now and 1 of them provided the decisive vote in favor of the full overturn.

2. More women than men have voted in every presidential election since 1984, covering the appointment of all current SCOTUS justices.

3.  Women outvote men more dramatically in Southern states than they do nationwide. 

Just doesn't make sense at any level of how this was decided!

The only thing that makes sense is the pendulum swinging back the other way. The pendulum always swings one way, then the other since time immemorial. Now the anti-women's health and well-being group is in the hot seat and they will have to defend what they've done. Let them be the defenders of all the problems that this ruling will cause going forward.

The anti-women's health and well-being group has their work cut out for them since the majority of the population is pro-women's choice on the issue of abortion. God does not rule our country, and controlling women's bodies is not going to work for very long. Too many women have a voice now, and a vote.

The anti-women's health and well-being group's stance on abortion is doomed from the start, even though they think they are just getting started. More rational minds will prevail in time.

[Badger]

Anti-abortion men are intolerable, but it needs to be noted that church ladies tend to be the most immovably anti-abortion people on the planet. Pretty much all of the language that pro-lifers use about "babies being torn limb from limb!" (you read a lot of it on this website from people like Mr. Reactionary and fhtagn) is designed to make church ladies sob rather than to win over anyone who disagrees.

This times 100.

[Badger]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

[Mr. Reactionary]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

[Badger]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

No, that's just whatever comic books you've been reading. But thanks for playing

[OSR stands with Israel]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Either pay for child support or dont have one night stands

[Indy Texas]

Anti-abortion men are intolerable, but it needs to be noted that church ladies tend to be the most immovably anti-abortion people on the planet. Pretty much all of the language that pro-lifers use about "babies being torn limb from limb!" (you read a lot of it on this website from people like Mr. Reactionary and fhtagn) is designed to make church ladies sob rather than to win over anyone who disagrees.

Also contrary to this idea that a cabal of old white men sat around a boardroom table and decreed they would do away with abortion in order to strengthen The Patriarchy, after 1973, a lot of conservative, religious women were put off by both the expanded legality of abortion and the broader Equal Rights Amendment push and Second Wave Feminism. They took the abortion issue and ran with it.

Most social change in modern history, either in the rightward or leftward direction, has come about because of the work of middle class women with a lot of time on their hands. The 19th century social reformers, the suffragettes, abolitionists - most of the household names from that era are women even though women didn't even have the right to vote in those days.

[Indy Texas]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Most women who are getting abortions already have children and are in a relationship with the person they're pregnant by.

Contrary to your stereotypes, abortions are not happening because "slutty" 20 year old college girls would rather party or go have a career than be "inconvenienced" by a baby and/or because people are just having sex willy nilly with random people.

By your logic, a husband and wife who already have two children and cannot afford to support a third should have to be celibate until the wife reaches menopause - possibly decades from now.

If you force a couple to have a third child they can't afford, you are literally taking food from the mouths of their two children.

Of course, conservatives like you DGAF about born children.

[Kamala's side hoe]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

I have seen content calling out men who stay silent on the topic. Not sure if that's what the OP meant but yay for performative virtue signaling on social media! (I am actually pro-choice though)

Either pay for child support or dont have one night stands

In the real world, abortion being legal doesn't make (straight) women or (straight men for that matter) more likely to initiate or engage in one night stands.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Either pay for child support or dont have one night stands

In the real world, abortion being legal doesn't make (straight) women or (straight men for that matter) more likely to initiate or engage in one night stands.

This was in response to Beet’s post

[Ferguson97]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Everyone has a right to consequence free sex. Why should consensual sex have any 'consequences'? There is nothing shameful about it.

You could use your exact argument to advocate for banning condoms or birth control.

[fhtagn]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Everyone has a right to consequence free sex. Why should consensual sex have any 'consequences'? There is nothing shameful about it.

You could use your exact argument to advocate for banning condoms or birth control.

Can you please cite where that "right" to consequence free sex is written?

[Ferguson97]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Everyone has a right to consequence free sex. Why should consensual sex have any 'consequences'? There is nothing shameful about it.

You could use your exact argument to advocate for banning condoms or birth control.

Can you please cite where that "right" to consequence free sex is written?

When did I suggest that this was a constitutional right? It's a fundamental right we all have as human beings.

[fhtagn]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Everyone has a right to consequence free sex. Why should consensual sex have any 'consequences'? There is nothing shameful about it.

You could use your exact argument to advocate for banning condoms or birth control.

Can you please cite where that "right" to consequence free sex is written?

When did I suggest that this was a constitutional right? It's a fundamental right we all have as human beings.

But a fundamental right to life doesn't exist? Where does the "fundamental right" to consequence free sex come from?

[Indy Texas]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Everyone has a right to consequence free sex. Why should consensual sex have any 'consequences'? There is nothing shameful about it.

You could use your exact argument to advocate for banning condoms or birth control.

Can you please cite where that "right" to consequence free sex is written?

When did I suggest that this was a constitutional right? It's a fundamental right we all have as human beings.

But a fundamental right to life doesn't exist?

Not for anything that is not a legal person!

A blastocyst or an embryo has no more "right to life" than algae or a catfish.

[fhtagn]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Everyone has a right to consequence free sex. Why should consensual sex have any 'consequences'? There is nothing shameful about it.

You could use your exact argument to advocate for banning condoms or birth control.

Can you please cite where that "right" to consequence free sex is written?

When did I suggest that this was a constitutional right? It's a fundamental right we all have as human beings.

But a fundamental right to life doesn't exist?

Not for anything that is not a legal person!

A blastocyst or an embryo has no more "right to life" than algae or a catfish.

Except it does when it's a human being. And using Ferguson97's own argument here, "legal" is irrelevant.

[DaleCooper]

I think you're just reading the wrong posts man, I've never seen this and I thought I was pretty "online" as far as these things go. Needless to say, we pro-choice men have nothing to be ashamed of with respect to this decision.

Abortion rights benefits men. None of us wants to be paying child support and dealing with an emotional cripple showing up at our doorsteps decades later due to a one night stand gone wrong.

Dude, that response is like a parody of what anti-abortion activists say pro-choice men think. Do better.

Nah, its just mask off. 90% of abortions are purely elective. The bro-choice "I have a right to consequence free sex" motivation lurks behind much of those reeeeeeing over this decision.

Everyone has a right to consequence free sex. Why should consensual sex have any 'consequences'? There is nothing shameful about it.

You could use your exact argument to advocate for banning condoms or birth control.

Can you please cite where that "right" to consequence free sex is written?

When did I suggest that this was a constitutional right? It's a fundamental right we all have as human beings.

But a fundamental right to life doesn't exist?

Not for anything that is not a legal person!

A blastocyst or an embryo has no more "right to life" than algae or a catfish.

Except it does when it's a human being. And using Ferguson97's own argument here, "legal" is irrelevant.

Oh my god, we get it! This isn't your bible study, you're going to have to put some effort into it if you want to have anything resembling a compelling point. Regurgitating these lines doesn't move anybody. You're wasting precious internet bandwidth by posting the same crap over and over and over again.

[Rookie Yinzer]

We are here because of White evangelicals both men and women, period.