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« on: June 25, 2022, 04:15:10 PM »

With the ruling in this case and Clarence Thomas openly saying he wants to overturn due process rulings which allowed access to contraception and legalized gay marriage the Republicans have given the Democrats the greatest gift they could imagine.  The entire left will unite with the knowledge that the winner of the 2024 election likely will select Clarence's replacement.  And candidly, Senate hearings are clearly pointless as Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and ACB all have proven they lied during their hearings.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2022, 04:19:49 PM »

I wouldn't go quite that far but I do think "Republicans want to take away your right to f--k" could be a powerful message. IF Democrats could play it smartly, which I am sadly less confident about given our recent history.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2022, 05:05:18 PM »

>DNC
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2022, 05:29:36 PM »

Close to 30 years old, and still spot on:





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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2022, 05:38:30 PM »


SIMPSONS DID IT!

They also did it here:


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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2022, 01:03:55 AM »

I wouldn't go quite that far but I do think "Republicans want to take away your right to f--k" could be a powerful message. IF Democrats could play it smartly, which I am sadly less confident about given our recent history.

It would be really hilarious if at least some religious congressional Republicans actually tried to run on a message of banning consensual activities.

I would love to hear Trump talk about how he participates in NNN.

On a more serious note, paiting Republicans as the hypocrites on these issues and making people FEAR their restrictions on these issues would likely be the smartest way for Dems to go about things. Doing usual identity politics can be very isolating to many. Doing this proponerle could be a reverse “defund the police” on Rs by labeling them with a very unpopular viewpoint that makes people fear only though a few loud voices actually support it to any degree
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2022, 01:26:39 AM »

On the contrary, Republicans just won the 2024 election, because by running on social issues, they pretty much ensured that Trump won't be the nominee.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2022, 03:18:41 AM »

On the contrary, Republicans just won the 2024 election, because by running on social issues, they pretty much ensured that Trump won't be the nominee.

I don't understand this logic. I'm more cautious than most to assume that Trump will be the nominee in 2024, but this doesn't make sense to me.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2022, 03:26:27 AM »

On the contrary, Republicans just won the 2024 election, because by running on social issues, they pretty much ensured that Trump won't be the nominee.

I don't understand this logic. I'm more cautious than most to assume that Trump will be the nominee in 2024, but this doesn't make sense to me.

Trump's a flaming hypocrite on pretty much every social issue that's a litmus test for Republicans (except gay marriage), so he'd be very easy to attack for his multiple affairs, probable multiple mistresses who he's forced to get abortions, etc, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2022, 04:14:06 AM »

On the contrary, Republicans just won the 2024 election, because by running on social issues, they pretty much ensured that Trump won't be the nominee.

I don't understand this logic. I'm more cautious than most to assume that Trump will be the nominee in 2024, but this doesn't make sense to me.

Trump's a flaming hypocrite on pretty much every social issue that's a litmus test for Republicans (except gay marriage), so he'd be very easy to attack for his multiple affairs, probable multiple mistresses who he's forced to get abortions, etc, etc.

But Republican voters don't care about any of that.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2022, 09:36:57 AM »

I think "Republicans want to take away YOUR rights to ..." could be a powerful message for Ds. But Rs could change that to "Republicans want to take away THEIR rights to ...", and R voters would eat that up.

So it really ends up in whether Ds can maintain a consistent message. A consistent message is not exactly the forte of Ds in the past.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2022, 10:25:10 AM »

I think "Republicans want to take away YOUR rights to ..." could be a powerful message for Ds. But Rs could change that to "Republicans want to take away THEIR rights to ...", and R voters would eat that up.

So it really ends up in whether Ds can maintain a consistent message. A consistent message is not exactly the forte of Ds in the past.


I’m gonna guess even most Republicans use birth control and don’t want to see that right gone. Pointing out that “sodomy” laws could apply even to straight sex in some cases could help too. Plus the majority of Republicans now support gay marriage. Thomas’s opinion is definitely politically toxic to Americans but again, the question is whether or not Dems can capitalize on that.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2022, 11:08:26 AM »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2022, 11:10:40 AM »

No, they didn't.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2022, 11:11:35 AM »
« Edited: June 26, 2022, 11:18:33 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »


The poll have us leading in WI, PA and MI that's all we need, you think Johnson is gonna win and LOL he has a 37 percent Approvals that's why he is losing to socialist BARNES
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2022, 05:23:36 PM »

On the contrary, Republicans just won the 2024 election, because by running on social issues, they pretty much ensured that Trump won't be the nominee.

I don't understand this logic. I'm more cautious than most to assume that Trump will be the nominee in 2024, but this doesn't make sense to me.

Trump's a flaming hypocrite on pretty much every social issue that's a litmus test for Republicans (except gay marriage), so he'd be very easy to attack for his multiple affairs, probable multiple mistresses who he's forced to get abortions, etc, etc.

If this really bothered most Republican voters, Trump would never have won the nomination in 2016.
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2022, 05:37:04 PM »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED
DeSantis will not lose to Crist I am betting my life on that!
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2022, 06:21:37 PM »

On the contrary, Republicans just won the 2024 election, because by running on social issues, they pretty much ensured that Trump won't be the nominee.

I don't understand this logic. I'm more cautious than most to assume that Trump will be the nominee in 2024, but this doesn't make sense to me.

Trump's a flaming hypocrite on pretty much every social issue that's a litmus test for Republicans (except gay marriage), so he'd be very easy to attack for his multiple affairs, probable multiple mistresses who he's forced to get abortions, etc, etc.

If this really bothered most Republican voters, Trump would never have won the nomination in 2016.



Trump had a lot of racially charged remarks and that's what attracted so many idiots to his flock.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2022, 08:27:00 AM »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED
DeSantis will not lose to Crist I am betting my life on that!

This website is for fun only, anyone can LOSE
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2022, 04:14:21 PM »
« Edited: June 27, 2022, 04:18:26 PM by Laki »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED

DeSantis wins against Christ with at least 15 points.

Republicans might definitely underperform in some swing states due to incompetence in states like PA and MI. But in this environment with these approval ratings against such a well known and popular incumbent in a R trending state, DeSantis is gonna obliterate the competition and Dems will likely suffer huge losses in Florida downballot. It's states like these that need to give Republicans the win in the house.

Trump is more powerful than anyone else, because he can now claim he kept his promises (overturning roe vs wade). Something both Bushes, Reagan and any other Republican all failed to do, while Trump succeeded.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2022, 06:36:33 PM »


This picture is hilarious because its true and sooooooo depressing because its true

Why can't Dems just pay the sh*t out of top GOP strategists and bribe them to work for Dems because the fact that they can invent winning issues is something we can never compete against
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2022, 06:03:05 AM »


This picture is hilarious because its true and sooooooo depressing because its true

Why can't Dems just pay the sh*t out of top GOP strategists and bribe them to work for Dems because the fact that they can invent winning issues is something we can never compete against

Already happened, it was called the Lincoln Project. Maybe the strategists aren't so great after all.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2022, 12:23:45 PM »


This picture is hilarious because its true and sooooooo depressing because its true

Why can't Dems just pay the sh*t out of top GOP strategists and bribe them to work for Dems because the fact that they can invent winning issues is something we can never compete against

Already happened, it was called the Lincoln Project. Maybe the strategists aren't so great after all.

Ehhh I don't think the Dems poached the Lincoln Project ppl as much as they left the Republican party and Dems partnered with them. I'm talking about finding high level messaging/comms people in the Republican party and paying them tens of millions of dollars to switch teams
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2022, 02:40:10 PM »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED

DeSantis wins against Christ with at least 15 points.

Republicans might definitely underperform in some swing states due to incompetence in states like PA and MI. But in this environment with these approval ratings against such a well known and popular incumbent in a R trending state, DeSantis is gonna obliterate the competition and Dems will likely suffer huge losses in Florida downballot. It's states like these that need to give Republicans the win in the house.

Trump is more powerful than anyone else, because he can now claim he kept his promises (overturning roe vs wade). Something both Bushes, Reagan and any other Republican all failed to do, while Trump succeeded.

Really? LOL; but no, it won't be that high. Final margin will be R 6-9%. We are not and will not be a solid red state.
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2022, 02:44:11 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2022, 02:50:55 PM by Laki »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED

DeSantis wins against Christ with at least 15 points.

Republicans might definitely underperform in some swing states due to incompetence in states like PA and MI. But in this environment with these approval ratings against such a well known and popular incumbent in a R trending state, DeSantis is gonna obliterate the competition and Dems will likely suffer huge losses in Florida downballot. It's states like these that need to give Republicans the win in the house.

Trump is more powerful than anyone else, because he can now claim he kept his promises (overturning roe vs wade). Something both Bushes, Reagan and any other Republican all failed to do, while Trump succeeded.

Really? LOL; but no, it won't be that high. Final margin will be R 6-9%. We are not and will not be a solid red state.

To be fair, even if DeSantis wins by 15 points, Florida still isn't a solid red state either, although i think it will vote Republican in 2024 again, with Trump or DeSantis as nominee against Biden. However i can see it going blue again in 2028 for example (even in the case DeSantis wins by 15 in 2022). It's not out of reach, it's just circumstances aren't helping and it was close in both 2016 and especially 2018, and Democrats will have to focus likely more on other states, because they're on the defence. With a popular governor on the ballot (although not bipartisan), relatively less backlash against Trump, an unpopular president and Floridian hispanics trending right-wing 2022 just isn't  the year. Biden also is doing bad among hispanics and independents, two groups that are important in Florida. And Florida has some former / retired WWC people from the Rust Belt states that were also a category Trump did well in (although Trump isn't on the ballot this year).

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We are not and will not be a solid red state.

So i definitely agree with this, even if i turn out to be right later this year. 15 points might be an exaggeration but i'm thinking double digits is a margin that will be hard to avoid for democrats.
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