Brownback/Gregg vs. Clinton/Edwards

[DownWithTheLeft]

Who wins if Sam Brownback and Judd Gregg take on Hillary Clinton and John Edwards?

Here's my map:

Brownback 290
Clinton 248

[© tweed]

um lol.

[Boris]

um lol.

[JSojourner]

[Keystone Phil]

Clinton - 298
Brownback - 240

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Brownback actually makes Bush look like a "compassionate conservative"

[Eraserhead]

Why is everyone giving Brownback Florida?

[Joel the Attention Whore]

Phil's about right

[DownWithTheLeft]

Why is everyone giving Brownback Florida?

I think it's because Brownback appeals to FL voters more because they are the type of people who would object to Hillary and because it is trending Republican.  However I don't know why people are giving Hillary CO

[Eraserhead]

Phil's about right

I say add Florida and maybe Virginia and he has it.

[Smash255]

Why is everyone giving Brownback Florida?

I think it's because Brownback appeals to FL voters more because they are the type of people who would object to Hillary and because it is trending Republican.  However I don't know why people are giving Hillary CO

CO is trending Democratic MUCH MORE than FL is trending GOP.  On top of that its Clinton vs BROWNBACK, whose chances of winning any purple state is slim.  I would give FL to Clinton as well against brownback.

[Gabu]

Sam Brownback appeals to holy rollers and not much else.

Clinton wins easily.

[Nym90]

Brownback wins New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and New Mexico? Um, no.

[memphis]

What awful tickets on both sides! Look for a third party to be a major factor on the level of 1992.

[Smash255]

Brownback would be one of the few that could lose VA without Warner on the ticket and to Clinton no less.  Left it for Brownback, but VA is my least confident prediction in this scenario.

[Reaganfan]

Clinton: 277
Brownback: 261

[SPQR]

Who wins if Sam Brownback and Judd Gregg take on Hillary Clinton and John Edwards?

Here's my map:

Brownback 290
Clinton 248

For you,even Santorum could win in 2008.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Since we don't know how good (or poor) of a campaign Brownback would run, it is pretty hard to say.

BUT, since Brownback is largely unknown to the vast majority of American voters, if Brownback were to triumph over McCain and Rudy in the GOP primaries, he has to be favored to beat Hillary.

As for Ohio...Brownback is Catholic and would be harder to beat in Ohio than Bush in 2000 or 2004.

Still...the US could be facing major defeat and a major recession by 2008. So, since we don't know what the political climate will be in 2008, it is impossible to judge how weak or strong the candidates will be.

[Smash255]

Since we don't know how good (or poor) of a campaign Brownback would run, it is pretty hard to say.

BUT, since Brownback is largely unknown to the vast majority of American voters, if Brownback were to triumph over McCain and Rudy in the GOP primaries, he has to be favored to beat Hillary.

As for Ohio...Brownback is Catholic and would be harder to beat in Ohio than Bush in 2000 or 2004.

Still...the US could be facing major defeat and a major recession by 2008. So, since we don't know what the political climate will be in 2008, it is impossible to judge how weak or strong the candidates will be.

He wouldn't beat Clinton, not even that close.  He would get demolished among moderates.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

He wouldn't beat Clinton, not even that close.  He would get demolished among moderates.

The GOP hasn't had a nominee that was unattractive to moderates since 1964.  And it is hard to believe Brownback could beat McCain and Rudy without attracting moderates.  I think winning the GOP nomination over McCain and Rudy is a much tougher hill to climb than beating Hillary in the General.  Beating McCain and Rudy would give a Brownback candidacy HUGE credibility. 

After all, the GOP rarely gambles on a unelectable nominee, especially in an open election cycle. 

[Stranger in a strange land]

I have a feeling Brownback would lose even to Hillary, and would only appeal to people who always vote Republican anyway.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

He wouldn't beat Clinton, not even that close.  He would get demolished among moderates.

The GOP hasn't had a nominee that was unattractive to moderates since 1964.  And it is hard to believe Brownback could beat McCain and Rudy without attracting moderates.  I think winning the GOP nomination over McCain and Rudy is a much tougher hill to climb than beating Hillary in the General.  Beating McCain and Rudy would give a Brownback candidacy HUGE credibility. 

After all, the GOP rarely gambles on a unelectable nominee, especially in an open election cycle. 

Exactly the reason why he doesn't have a PRAYER.

A Brownback would be popular with the fire and brimstone crowd - but a conservative need s to have other qualities apart from being conservative. Huckabee is incredibly charismatic, Brownback scares small children.

He's one of the few candidates I have being flogged by Hillary without a second thought. He'll send moderates screaming - he's a bible-basher, that's all.

[Smash255]

He wouldn't beat Clinton, not even that close.  He would get demolished among moderates.

The GOP hasn't had a nominee that was unattractive to moderates since 1964.  And it is hard to believe Brownback could beat McCain and Rudy without attracting moderates.  I think winning the GOP nomination over McCain and Rudy is a much tougher hill to climb than beating Hillary in the General.  Beating McCain and Rudy would give a Brownback candidacy HUGE credibility. 

After all, the GOP rarely gambles on a unelectable nominee, especially in an open election cycle. 

Fw things

The Party base controls the Primary.  Brownback doesn't exactly have to do much with moderates in order to win the nomination as long as he does well with the base.  On top of that you have McCain and Giuliani splitting the moderate base (though Rudy is WELL left of mcCain).  Brownback can win the nomination without crossing over to moderate Republicans.  Moderates in the General would be running for the hills away from him.  He would take a serious beating among Independents even to Hillary.  Out of those who have a serious shot at the nomination on either side Brownback is the most unelectable in a General (though he would be 2nd most unelectable, if you consider Tancredo with a realistic shot at the GOp nom.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

The Party base controls the Primary.

and the base did NOT choose Robertson, Keyes, etc....instead, the base chose Reagan40, Reagan40, Bush41, Bush41, Dole, Bush43, and Bush43.

And there is no indication whatsoever that the base will nominate someone that is unelectable in 2008.

The base is begging for a reason to nominate a heavy weight like McCain.  All he has to do is point to Roberts and Alito as his models for SCOTUS nominees (just as Bush used Scalia and Thomas), and the nomination is his.

[tarheel-leftist85]