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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: June 10, 2022, 03:51:18 PM »
« edited: June 10, 2022, 03:54:37 PM by All Along The Watchtower »

Imagine thinking that these inbred criminal morons represent Islam. They want the world to think that (handshake meme between the al-Saud/Wahhabism and Islamophobia). They named their country after themselves. And yet they have the gall to call Sufism and Shiism bad and un-Islamic because “they worship idols!” Roll Eyes

King Fahd literally declared himself “Custodian of the Holy Sites” because everyone from Khomeini and the Muslim Brotherhood to members of the Saudi clerical establishment along with ordinary Muslims worldwide were criticizing him for being an incompetent alcoholic and non-pious autocrat who burned through the national treasury in Las Vegas casinos when he wasn’t busy having cocaine orgies in the south of France (all 100% accurate criticisms ofc).

And of course, the disgusting tacky commercial al-Saud and their Wahhabi allies have a shared hatred of history, Islamic and Arabian history above all else, in addition to all of their other well-documented and ongoing crimes locally and globally—crimes against humanity. As I’ve heard some people call them, they are “an ISIS who ‘made it.’” Their collapse can’t come soon enough.

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2022, 08:58:17 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2022, 09:02:24 PM by All Along The Watchtower »

I also do want to underscore that this is specifically to own Muslims from the Western world--not Muslims from Saudi Arabia's traditional enemies/rivals like Iran or Turkey or those of the Gulf states that hate it now. These are the people we're supposed to believe are better "allies" to the West than a hypothetical opening to Iran would get us.

Should be noted that of the two Saudi officials most responsible for improved counterterrorism cooperation with the US post-9/11—Mohammed bin Nayef and Saad al-Jabriri—the former is the ex-crown prince whom MBS shoved aside, arrested, and had tortured while the latter is the former intelligence advisor to bin Nayef who is being hunted by MBS’s goons in Canada, of all places.  Hell, FBI counterterrorism veteran Ali Soufan received threats against his life from the Saudi state for agreeing to meet with the 9/11 families and lawyers who filed the JASTA suit!

You could be forgiven, in our post-Trump, COVID-haunted world, if you didn’t know or had forgot about the Pensacola naval base attack in December 2019. Perpetrator was a Saudi military trainee and member of al-Qaeda who had been radicalized in the Kingdom—before he had been sent over to the US in 2017, well into MBS’s consolidation of power after his father came to the throne in early 2015. Remember what I said about MBN and al-Jaabri being our most reliable Saudi counterterrorism allies?

Wow, that’s a lot. I’m not sure our governing elite understands all of this (to the extent they care—dubious). Perhaps we need a Saudi with credibility in both their elite circles as well as ours, like Jamal Khash—oh, right.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2022, 10:32:54 PM »

More generally, I don't think the people in the west who despise the Saudis quite understand that they rule over an extremely conservative and anti western populace. The sectarianism and extremism that exists in the kingdom is not fundamentally coming from the royal family: the Saudis have taken massive risks with their own legitimacy in the eyes of their subjects to cultivate the existing US alliance.

I’m not sure how true this is, especially these days. And in any event it’s quite self-serving for the al-Saud in terms of their absolute rule, don’t you think?
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2022, 09:13:25 PM »

The Saudi conquest of Hejaz was the greatest tragedy for Islam since the Mongols rolled around, and it should have been prevented at all costs.

This alongside the tragic abolition of the Ottoman Caliphate as well.

The Late Ottoman Empire was very bad actually, and you can blame a lot of what came after on it.
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