Biden to grovel before Khashoggi's murderer/the Butcher of Yemen in exchange for lower gas prices.
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« Reply #75 on: June 03, 2022, 04:47:12 PM »

Tbh I don’t even think Iran is worse than Saudi Arabia.

Iran hates us and has for decades, Saudi Arabia doesn’t. It’s really that simple.
I wonder why Iran hates us... really struggling to find any reasons.

The coup of Mossadegh was the brainchild of MI6, not the CIA. Sure America had some involvement, but they were not the main orchestrators. Also the current government of Iran is totally insane and America really should've just crushed the revolution in its infancy in 1978.

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« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2022, 04:49:36 PM »

Tbh I don’t even think Iran is worse than Saudi Arabia.

Iran hates us and has for decades, Saudi Arabia doesn’t. It’s really that simple.
I wonder why Iran hates us... really struggling to find any reasons.

The coup of Mossadegh was the brainchild of MI6, not the CIA. Sure America had some involvement, but they were not the main orchestrators. Also the current government of Iran is totally insane and America really should've just crushed the revolution in its infancy in 1978.

LOL, please, don't try to minimize American involvement. Also, it's not really about the coup, but the Shah's grotesque rule afterwards.
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« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2022, 04:58:03 PM »

Tbh I don’t even think Iran is worse than Saudi Arabia.

Iran hates us and has for decades, Saudi Arabia doesn’t. It’s really that simple.
I wonder why Iran hates us... really struggling to find any reasons.

The coup of Mossadegh was the brainchild of MI6, not the CIA. Sure America had some involvement, but they were not the main orchestrators. Also the current government of Iran is totally insane and America really should've just crushed the revolution in its infancy in 1978.

LOL, please, don't try to minimize American involvement. Also, it's not really about the coup, but the Shah's grotesque rule afterwards.

I think you are missing the point here, the point is we can't support Iran because they hate us, and that we need to support the Saudis as a counterbalance to a regime that has threatened to wipe Israel off the map, if they get a nuclear weapon.
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« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2022, 06:20:12 PM »

Tbh I don’t even think Iran is worse than Saudi Arabia.

Iran hates us and has for decades, Saudi Arabia doesn’t. It’s really that simple.
I wonder why Iran hates us... really struggling to find any reasons.

The coup of Mossadegh was the brainchild of MI6, not the CIA. Sure America had some involvement, but they were not the main orchestrators. Also the current government of Iran is totally insane and America really should've just crushed the revolution in its infancy in 1978.

LOL, please, don't try to minimize American involvement. Also, it's not really about the coup, but the Shah's grotesque rule afterwards.

I think you are missing the point here, the point is we can't support Iran because they hate us, and that we need to support the Saudis as a counterbalance to a regime that has threatened to wipe Israel off the map, if they get a nuclear weapon.

Obviously a rapprochement with Iran would have to come from both sides at once and is thus unlikely, but your insistence that it can never happen Because They Hate Us feels oddly essentialist, almost like there's a "Persian genius" that's uniquely inimical to the "American genius" for some inscrutable reason. As applied to foreign policy this sort of thinking can start to feel a lot like mindless status-quoism.
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« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2022, 06:36:18 PM »

There are a ton of other sources for cheap gas—Iran, Venezuela—and gas we are currently exporting for some reason that could be used by our people. Going to the Saudis and begging as the leading superpower and the only thing keeping them in power is more pathetic than building up our relations elsewhere.
Brandon's representatives already went on bended knee to Maduro.

The sane solution would be to thaw relations with Iran, a country far less bad than Venezuela or Saudi Arabia, but this is America and being stupid is what it does best.

The sanest solution would be to kill two birds with one stone and transition to renewable. But I guess that's a no-go, right, Biden?

The sanest solution would be to develop our own energy resources

Exactly what I said. Our own RENEWABLE energy resources. No more fossil fuels.

My 2001 dodge dakota doesnt run on solar and unicorn farts. No more green only policies.

Not our problem. Global warming is.
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« Reply #80 on: June 03, 2022, 07:10:13 PM »

Apple pie, baseball, and bowing down before Saudi abusers of human rights are America's favorite national pastimes.
You forgot mass shootings.
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« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2022, 09:58:40 PM »


But muh “alliance…”

Their Ambassador to the US was nicknamed “Bandar Bush.” They buy our weapons. How could they hate us Sad
 
 
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