Who’s church is closer to following “true” Christianity: BRTD’s, or ER’s? (user search)
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  Who’s church is closer to following “true” Christianity: BRTD’s, or ER’s? (search mode)
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Statilius the Epicurean
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« on: May 28, 2022, 02:02:19 AM »

Say what you will about ER, but his brand of scripture is more theologically sound than the adult D&D club that BRTD attends every Sunday.

It’s incoherent to be atheist and claim one or the other sect of Christianity is more or less theologically sound.
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2022, 12:40:47 PM »

Say what you will about ER, but his brand of scripture is more theologically sound than the adult D&D club that BRTD attends every Sunday.

It’s incoherent to be atheist and claim one or the other sect of Christianity is more or less theologically sound.

Why?

Because there isn't a valid theological standard to measure them by.
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Statilius the Epicurean
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2022, 08:10:52 PM »
« Edited: May 28, 2022, 08:33:47 PM by Statilius the Epicurean »

Say what you will about ER, but his brand of scripture is more theologically sound than the adult D&D club that BRTD attends every Sunday.

It’s incoherent to be atheist and claim one or the other sect of Christianity is more or less theologically sound.

Why?

Because there isn't a valid theological standard to measure them by.

There's internal coherence. It doesn't strike me as any different from claiming that there are more or less sound interpretations of a novel.

Not sure they're equivalent. I think theological claims are more serious philosophical truth claims than interpretations of novels, which are, yes, basically headcanon. Not to get all death of the author.

Yeah, pretty much what Nathan said. I would have compared it to interpreting the law-- whether or not you agree with a particular statute, you can still objectively assess whether certain actions or procedures conform to that statute.

I mean again the law is a social convention. Whether same-sex sexual relations are a sin or not is to Christians a truth claim about material reality.


I could easily say that I think ER's Christianity is on that score more faithful than BRTD's to my 'literary' interpretation of Christianity. This is what Paul said, what most churches said until the 20th century etc.. But I don't see how I could make that a theological claim, because I don't know how I would falsify BRTD's theological justification on the plane of theology, something I don't believe is a valid path to knowledge.
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Statilius the Epicurean
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2022, 10:40:20 AM »
« Edited: May 31, 2022, 10:56:01 AM by Statilius the Epicurean »

Studying "theology" doesn't necessitate any religious belief.

No, but making positive doctrinal statements does.

If one studies a religious text or tradition, one is engaging in a form of "theology."

Or history, or philosophy, or literary study. The point is it's difficult to see how those can adjudicate competing theological claims.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2022, 06:00:56 PM »

It's really less that Japan is Buddhist and more that Japan is Japan. Plenty of Buddhist countries have public consensuses very hostile, at least on paper, to both abortion and alcohol use, since in traditional Buddhist ethics both are clearly karmically negative acts (which isn't necessary the same thing as being "a sin" in the Christian sense).

I wonder if this is a divide in Theravada and Mahayana Buddhist attitudes, because I know in the Pali Canon there are many strict prohibitions on things like games of chance but don't know if they have equivalents in the Chinese texts.
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