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« on: May 25, 2022, 01:20:31 PM »

You are going to have a global wheat shortage and shortage of cooking oils just from the war so I’m not sure how going vegan would solve anything

Wheat isn't really used as an animal protein substitute the way soy + peanuts are
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2022, 03:23:24 PM »

Well the point is that animals are fed grains which is a relatively "inefficient" way of making food. It takes like  a 5:1 ratio  or something similar .
Aren’t insects super good for that? My case that we should incentivize insect consumption continues to grow.

Its not that much more efficient than chicken . I will not eat the bugs  nor live in a pod.
Why not?

Idk where the meme comes from either. The efficiency benefits of eating crickets vs chicken don't necessarily come from feed to flesh conversation ratios.

https://exoprotein.com/blogs/blog/crickets-vs-chicken-we-re-missing-the-point

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A lot has been made of a recent study by two UC Davis researchers, published in the journal PLOS ONE. The study, based on raising crickets on various feeds, shows two things:

  • Crickets fed a given weight of poultry feed produce slightly more protein than chickens do.
  • Crickets fed a given weight of concentrated food waste produce significantly less protein than chickens fed the same weight of poultry feed.

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Beyond the environmental benefits of saving energy, water, and food, cricket farms are far more flexible. A cricket farm producing tons of protein per day can be sited in a big city; there’s no noise or smell, so you wouldn’t even know it’s there. This means all the benefits of local farming: fewer food miles, fresher produce and less food waste.

Incidentally, a shed full of chickens produces huge amounts of manure. Runoff from chicken farms pollutes groundwater, rivers, and the sea. Instead of manure, crickets produce “frass”. It’s dry and clean, and it doesn’t smell. It works great as fertilizer, too.

When chickens are fully grown, they’re driven to a slaughterhouse. They’re killed, butchered and processed, then transported by refrigerated truck to wherever they’re eaten. The process is dirty, expensive, and inhumane, generating carbon dioxide and huge amounts of waste.

For crickets, harvesting is much more simple. They’re cooled until their metabolism stops, then dehydrated and ground into flour. Once dehydrated, they’re like jerky: they stay fresh at room temperature and don’t require refrigeration. Unlike chickens, the whole body is used, so there’s almost zero waste.

So, in addition to being better at eating poultry food than chickens are, crickets use far less energy and water, generate minimal pollution and can be raised and processed close to where they’re used. Beyond protein conversion efficiency, these are huge arguments for why crickets are a sustainable crop.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2022, 12:47:36 PM »

41.9% of Americans are OBESE.

The food catastrophe already happened.  You just weren't paying attention.

I mean obese people can definitely starve to death from lack of micronutrients and muscle wasting. Hope no one here or their loved ones ever have to experience that


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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2022, 08:36:37 PM »

41.9% of Americans are OBESE.

The food catastrophe already happened.  You just weren't paying attention.

I mean obese people can definitely starve to death from lack of micronutrients and muscle wasting. Hope no one here or their loved ones ever have to experience that





Huh

Groceries costing 15% more is not going to lead obese people to not eat for a YEAR.  What's wrong with you?  They can just eat 15% less and be healthier.

Groceries costing 15% more means healthy food and fresh produce also costs at least 15% more, which makes it less accessible to poorer people who in the US are statistically more likely to be obese.

I know this is Joe Rogan but the guy he’s interviewing is legit (did a TED talk on stress and lifestyle diseases) and not the type who’d prescribe horse tranquilizers or dewormers



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