SB 109-04: Regulatory Process Reform Act (Failed)
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Joseph Cao
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« on: May 12, 2022, 01:19:59 AM »
« edited: June 11, 2022, 10:45:53 PM by Lincoln Senator Joseph Cao »

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A Senate Bill
To reform the process of regulations being implemented by executive agencies

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Section I: Title

1. This bill shall be called the Regulatory Process Reform Act.

Section II: Process Changes

1. It shall be a requirement for a cost benefit analysis to be done of any regulations proposed by an executive agency before the regulation gets implemented.

2. Any regulation deemed to have a higher cost than a benefit, shall not be implemented unless Congress passes that regulation into law.

3. Future Regulations which are implemented are required to periodically have cost benefit analysis even after implementation to see if the benefits of the regulation outweigh the costs.

Section III: Creation of New Agency  

1. A new agency will be created to carry out the cost benefit analysis.

2. The new agency will be part of the Department of Internal Affairs.

3. The head of that particular agency will be appointed by the President.

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2022, 01:40:54 AM »

Thank you I believe that it is time for Atlasia to finally reform our regulatory system to ensure that we can reduce the power of an unelected bureaucracy and send it back to the elected officials here in the senate and in the regions .


It is why I believe this bill should be passed into law
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2022, 04:17:35 AM »

I understand the principles of the bill but I'm not convinced by it and it seems too simple. For example, I would be interested to see how a regulation aimed at preventing environmental damage that might have high costs to a few businesses would go through this process and the actual framework for determining a cost of benefit used. If the answer is, it depends on who the President appoints, then the agency seems less necessary. Though I agree scrutiny is a good thing.
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2022, 05:43:08 PM »

So basically, I'm not allowed to do anything without pestering the GM?
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2022, 06:10:01 PM »

Seems overly restrictive as the Secretary pointed out.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2022, 06:53:52 PM »

So basically, I'm not allowed to do anything without pestering the GM?

I get what OSR is trying to achieve, but I think game mechanics need to be a consideration here. I would certainly like to see the SoIA office work before it is tied in knots.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2022, 07:24:43 PM »

I mean I think it’s well known that I already find the justifications for separating litigation and non-litigation domestic policy very tenuous. This would make it even worse by essentially eliminating the latter. I’m a no.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2022, 07:30:16 PM »

I think I would oppose this in principle as I believe not only would it hamper Sirius's role as SOIA, but as written, "regulation" could in theory apply to some of the work at the Department of State depending on interpretation. As I am an executive official, I believe I will have to abstain from voting on this issue due to a conflict of interest, but I would like some clarification on the wording as a Senator.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 07:08:21 AM »

I think I would oppose this in principle as I believe not only would it hamper Sirius's role as SOIA, but as written, "regulation" could in theory apply to some of the work at the Department of State depending on interpretation. As I am an executive official, I believe I will have to abstain from voting on this issue due to a conflict of interest, but I would like some clarification on the wording as a Senator.

I would interpret is as regulation under the APA which excludes acts by State/Defense.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2022, 02:19:46 AM »

I think I would oppose this in principle as I believe not only would it hamper Sirius's role as SOIA, but as written, "regulation" could in theory apply to some of the work at the Department of State depending on interpretation. As I am an executive official, I believe I will have to abstain from voting on this issue due to a conflict of interest, but I would like some clarification on the wording as a Senator.

I would interpret is as regulation under the APA which excludes acts by State/Defense.


Yah that’s what I mean but we can amend the bill to make this more clear if need to be
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2022, 11:45:12 PM »

I don't like the idea of a new agency being created. More bureaucracy + what happens if labor staffs the agency with bad analysts
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2022, 09:47:19 AM »

I don't like the idea of a new agency being created. More bureaucracy + what happens if labor staffs the agency with bad analysts

Would you support something like the OTL reins act instead
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2022, 04:52:34 AM »

I don't like the idea of a new agency being created. More bureaucracy + what happens if labor staffs the agency with bad analysts

Would you support something like the OTL reins act instead
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2022, 03:43:32 PM »

Proposing this Amendment to the Bill :


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A Senate Bill
To reform the process of regulations being implemented by executive agencies

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Section I: Title

1. This bill shall be called the Regulatory Process Reform Act.

Section II: Process Changes

1. It shall be a requirement for a cost benefit analysis to be done of any regulations proposed by an executive agency which have financial impacts on the Atlasian economy of more than a $100 million or increase consumer prices, before the regulation gets implemented.

2. Any one of these regulations deemed to have a higher cost than a benefit, shall not be implemented unless Congress passes that regulation into law.

3. Future Regulations which are implemented are required to periodically have cost benefit analysis even after implementation to see if the benefits of the regulation outweigh the costs.

Section III: Creation of New Agency 

1. A new agency will be created to carry out the cost benefit analysis.

2. The new agency will be part of the Department of Internal Affairs.

3. The head of that particular agency will be appointed by the President.

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2022, 04:11:57 PM »

Objection
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2022, 04:15:20 PM »

How would you know that it has an impact of more than $100 million without doing an analysis?
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2022, 04:43:45 PM »

How would you know that it has an impact of more than $100 million without doing an analysis?
The agency writing the regulations can do the analysis.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2022, 06:09:23 PM »


WD Objecting to fiscal responsibility. Also like he objected to leaving votes open for reasonable periods of time.
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2022, 07:00:51 PM »

It would be really based to get back to passing Dumb Regulation Repeal Acts.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2022, 07:07:30 PM »

We already couldn't get anyone to be an active comptroller general. This will probably just result in made up numbers.
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2022, 01:27:23 AM »

There being an objection, a vote is now open on the following amendment:

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A Senate Bill
To reform the process of regulations being implemented by executive agencies

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Section I: Title

1. This bill shall be called the Regulatory Process Reform Act.

Section II: Process Changes

1. It shall be a requirement for a cost benefit analysis to be done of any regulations proposed by an executive agency which have financial impacts on the Atlasian economy of more than a $100 million or increase consumer prices, before the regulation gets implemented.

2. Any one of these regulations deemed to have a higher cost than a benefit, shall not be implemented unless Congress passes that regulation into law.

3. Future Regulations which are implemented are required to periodically have cost benefit analysis even after implementation to see if the benefits of the regulation outweigh the costs.

Section III: Creation of New Agency 

1. A new agency will be created to carry out the cost benefit analysis.

2. The new agency will be part of the Department of Internal Affairs.

3. The head of that particular agency will be appointed by the President.


72 hours to vote. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2022, 01:48:31 AM »

Abstain
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2022, 01:56:13 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2022, 02:48:34 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2022, 03:19:41 AM »

Abstain, bill is not workable either way.
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