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« Reply #1225 on: May 09, 2022, 05:48:44 AM »

Just gonna drop this right here.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/06/26/325806464/states-cant-mandate-buffer-zones-around-abortion-clinics-high-court-says
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« Reply #1226 on: May 09, 2022, 05:49:42 AM »

Were these home addresses previously a secret? That seems unlikely. You can find anyone's home address within a few minutes if you know what to Google.

Now, is it appropriate to go do a protest in a neighborhood? Not really. It's disrespectful to the other people living nearby. But is it a "leak" ? Is a 1/6-level incitement of violence? Please...

Anecdotal, but I saw a twitter thread where someone at the protests said that Kavanaugh's own neighbors were claiming responsibility for having organized the protest. If true, would seem to somewhat negate that argument.
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« Reply #1227 on: May 09, 2022, 05:56:30 AM »

Goodbye Roe! This should have happened decades ago!

Why? Are you a female? Do you want the government telling you how to manage your body? Truly?

Or, if you are not a female, how come you think you have a right to tell women how to manage their bodies? Would you like the government to tell you how to manage yours? Truly?

Abortion is legalized murder. Why are you pro-murder?

This "logic" rests upon the belief that a fetus - or an even tinier clump of cells - is a person. There are about a million miscarriages in the US per year. Have you ever been to a funeral for a miscarried fetus? Ever even hear of one happening in your entire life? Eagerly awaiting your response.
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« Reply #1228 on: May 09, 2022, 05:59:36 AM »
« Edited: May 09, 2022, 06:03:30 AM by tack50 »

I do not know if releasing someone's address is a crime or not in the US; but I will say that when inevitably a bunch of trumpists start protesting at Pelosi's house or whatever for some dumb reason the people using the "this is legitimate protest" line will use it again.

I don't think that "escraches" as we'd call them are a good or arguably even a legitimate form of protest. Of course this is up for debate and I won't claim there is a right or wrong answer, but if the reverse happens with far right trumpists protesting at the house of Dem politicians, people will have a right to ask for consistency.
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« Reply #1229 on: May 09, 2022, 06:03:12 AM »

I do not know if releasing someone's address is a crime or not in the US; but I will say that when inevitably a bunch of trumpists start protesting at Pelosi's house or whatever for some dumb reason the people using the "this is legitimate protest" line will use it again.

I don't think that "escraches" as we'd call them are a goor or arguably even a legitimate form of protest. Of course this is up for debate and I won't claim there is a right or wrong answer, but if the reverse happens with far right trumpists protesting at the house of Dem politicians, people will have a right to ask for consistency.
Interesting. I didn't know there was a specific English word for something like this.
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« Reply #1230 on: May 09, 2022, 06:06:42 AM »



The people who leaked this need to be arrested and throw in prison for years

For what crime?


For leaking the address of supremes court justices . The police also should be sent to clear that neighborhood out

Your side may get its way in overturning Roe, but you don't get to overturn the First Amendment as well. That would invite war.

This is undermining the free and fair judicial process, and clear example of intimidation

Where do you stand on Jan. 6th protesters being put in jail?

Pretty much all of of us who dont think January 6th was insurrection nonetheless support prosecuting and jailing those who rioted and committed crimes. Fighting cops, breaking windows, disrupting a public meeting, all violent crimes. Not sure if all the justices live in VA but here it is illegal to picket a specific residence since thats also a menacing act.
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« Reply #1231 on: May 09, 2022, 06:09:58 AM »

Goodbye Roe! This should have happened decades ago!

Why? Are you a female? Do you want the government telling you how to manage your body? Truly?

Or, if you are not a female, how come you think you have a right to tell women how to manage their bodies? Would you like the government to tell you how to manage yours? Truly?

Abortion is legalized murder. Why are you pro-murder?

This "logic" rests upon the belief that a fetus - or an even tinier clump of cells - is a person. There are about a million miscarriages in the US per year. Have you ever been to a funeral for a miscarried fetus? Ever even hear of one happening in your entire life? Eagerly awaiting your response.

I know a few women who miscarried and were much more devasted than your dismissive response suggests.
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« Reply #1232 on: May 09, 2022, 06:12:02 AM »

I do not know if releasing someone's address is a crime or not in the US; but I will say that when inevitably a bunch of trumpists start protesting at Pelosi's house or whatever for some dumb reason the people using the "this is legitimate protest" line will use it again.

I don't think that "escraches" as we'd call them are a good or arguably even a legitimate form of protest. Of course this is up for debate and I won't claim there is a right or wrong answer, but if the reverse happens with far right trumpists protesting at the house of Dem politicians, people will have a right to ask for consistency.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisby_v._Schultz

Governments are allowed to prohibit picketing a specific residence. Thats the law in Virginia.
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« Reply #1233 on: May 09, 2022, 06:15:21 AM »

I do not know if releasing someone's address is a crime or not in the US; but I will say that when inevitably a bunch of trumpists start protesting at Pelosi's house or whatever for some dumb reason the people using the "this is legitimate protest" line will use it again.

I don't think that "escraches" as we'd call them are a good or arguably even a legitimate form of protest. Of course this is up for debate and I won't claim there is a right or wrong answer, but if the reverse happens with far right trumpists protesting at the house of Dem politicians, people will have a right to ask for consistency.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisby_v._Schultz

Governments are allowed to prohibit picketing a specific residence. Thats the law in Virginia.
Does this mean that the pickets outside John Roberts' house could be illegal? Iirc, he was a resident of the state of Virginia.
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« Reply #1234 on: May 09, 2022, 06:17:39 AM »

I do not know if releasing someone's address is a crime or not in the US; but I will say that when inevitably a bunch of trumpists start protesting at Pelosi's house or whatever for some dumb reason the people using the "this is legitimate protest" line will use it again.

I don't think that "escraches" as we'd call them are a good or arguably even a legitimate form of protest. Of course this is up for debate and I won't claim there is a right or wrong answer, but if the reverse happens with far right trumpists protesting at the house of Dem politicians, people will have a right to ask for consistency.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisby_v._Schultz

Governments are allowed to prohibit picketing a specific residence. Thats the law in Virginia.
Does this mean that the pickets outside John Roberts' house could be illegal? Iirc, he was a resident of the state of Virginia.

If their police and commonwealths attorneys are willing to enforce it. The first bill i ever wrote that got introduced in the state legislature was an attempt to modify it that got tabled.
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« Reply #1235 on: May 09, 2022, 06:18:38 AM »

I do not know if releasing someone's address is a crime or not in the US; but I will say that when inevitably a bunch of trumpists start protesting at Pelosi's house or whatever for some dumb reason the people using the "this is legitimate protest" line will use it again.

I don't think that "escraches" as we'd call them are a good or arguably even a legitimate form of protest. Of course this is up for debate and I won't claim there is a right or wrong answer, but if the reverse happens with far right trumpists protesting at the house of Dem politicians, people will have a right to ask for consistency.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisby_v._Schultz

Governments are allowed to prohibit picketing a specific residence. Thats the law in Virginia.
Does this mean that the pickets outside John Roberts' house could be illegal? Iirc, he was a resident of the state of Virginia.

If their police and commonwealths attorneys are willing to enforce it. The first bill i ever wrote that got introduced in the state legislature was an attempt to modify it that got tabled.
It would seem that Jason Miyares would likely have interest in enforcing this, if it was his decision to do so.
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« Reply #1236 on: May 09, 2022, 06:36:44 AM »



The people who leaked this need to be arrested and throw in prison for years

For what crime?


For leaking the address of supremes court justices . The police also should be sent to clear that neighborhood out

Your side may get its way in overturning Roe, but you don't get to overturn the First Amendment as well. That would invite war.

This is undermining the free and fair judicial process, and clear example of intimidation

Where do you stand on Jan. 6th protesters being put in jail?

Pretty much all of of us who dont think January 6th was insurrection nonetheless support prosecuting and jailing those who rioted and committed crimes. Fighting cops, breaking windows, disrupting a public meeting, all violent crimes. Not sure if all the justices live in VA but here it is illegal to picket a specific residence since thats also a menacing act.

Good to hear, but this is not what I asked. I asked if he supports Jan. 6th protesters being put in jail, ie the ones who walked around outside but did not violently enter the capitol.
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« Reply #1237 on: May 09, 2022, 06:38:30 AM »

Goodbye Roe! This should have happened decades ago!

Why? Are you a female? Do you want the government telling you how to manage your body? Truly?

Or, if you are not a female, how come you think you have a right to tell women how to manage their bodies? Would you like the government to tell you how to manage yours? Truly?

Abortion is legalized murder. Why are you pro-murder?

This "logic" rests upon the belief that a fetus - or an even tinier clump of cells - is a person. There are about a million miscarriages in the US per year. Have you ever been to a funeral for a miscarried fetus? Ever even hear of one happening in your entire life? Eagerly awaiting your response.

I know a few women who miscarried and were much more devasted than your dismissive response suggests.

You completely misread that if you think I was being dismissive of miscarriages and not his argument that "abortion is legalized murder."
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« Reply #1238 on: May 09, 2022, 06:39:00 AM »

Goodbye Roe! This should have happened decades ago!

Why? Are you a female? Do you want the government telling you how to manage your body? Truly?

Or, if you are not a female, how come you think you have a right to tell women how to manage their bodies? Would you like the government to tell you how to manage yours? Truly?

Abortion is legalized murder. Why are you pro-murder?

This "logic" rests upon the belief that a fetus - or an even tinier clump of cells - is a person. There are about a million miscarriages in the US per year. Have you ever been to a funeral for a miscarried fetus? Ever even hear of one happening in your entire life? Eagerly awaiting your response.

I know a few women who miscarried and were much more devasted than your dismissive response suggests.

This is horrible what people do to people in this situation. That’s why pregnancies aren’t revealed until the second trimester as much as possible. People aren’t responsible with this.
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« Reply #1239 on: May 09, 2022, 09:13:47 AM »




The people who leaked this need to be arrested and throw in prison for years

Haha, it was organized by his neighbors.

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« Reply #1240 on: May 09, 2022, 09:15:51 AM »




The people who leaked this need to be arrested and throw in prison for years

Haha, it was organized by his neighbors.



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In the past, a few of Wooten-Holway’s protests against Kavanaugh were mistakenly held in front of the wrong house. She wonders why no one on that street set her straight.

By one neighbor who invited a bunch of outsiders and didn't even know the correct house.
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« Reply #1241 on: May 09, 2022, 09:28:11 AM »

Protesters outside a reactionary nutjobs house: "Call the National Guard!!"
Protesters outside a women's clinic: "Freedom of Assembly!"
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« Reply #1242 on: May 09, 2022, 10:31:47 AM »

Goodbye Roe! This should have happened decades ago!

Why? Are you a female? Do you want the government telling you how to manage your body? Truly?

Or, if you are not a female, how come you think you have a right to tell women how to manage their bodies? Would you like the government to tell you how to manage yours? Truly?

Abortion is legalized murder. Why are you pro-murder?

This "logic" rests upon the belief that a fetus - or an even tinier clump of cells - is a person. There are about a million miscarriages in the US per year. Have you ever been to a funeral for a miscarried fetus? Ever even hear of one happening in your entire life? Eagerly awaiting your response.

Tell us you don't respect women who experienced a miscarriage without telling us you don't respect women who experienced a miscarriage. 

No mentally stable woman experiences a miscarriage thinks "oh well, it was just a clump of cells", and you're disgusting for suggesting that's the case.
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« Reply #1243 on: May 09, 2022, 10:33:08 AM »

Goodbye Roe! This should have happened decades ago!

Why? Are you a female? Do you want the government telling you how to manage your body? Truly?

Or, if you are not a female, how come you think you have a right to tell women how to manage their bodies? Would you like the government to tell you how to manage yours? Truly?

Abortion is legalized murder. Why are you pro-murder?

This "logic" rests upon the belief that a fetus - or an even tinier clump of cells - is a person. There are about a million miscarriages in the US per year. Have you ever been to a funeral for a miscarried fetus? Ever even hear of one happening in your entire life? Eagerly awaiting your response.

Tell us you don't respect women who experienced a miscarriage without telling us you don't respect women who experienced a miscarriage. 

No mentally stable woman experiences a miscarriage thinks "oh well, it was just a clump of cells", and you're disgusting for suggesting that's the case.

And a lot of women who are expecting wait a while before they tell family.
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« Reply #1244 on: May 09, 2022, 10:49:48 AM »



The people who leaked this need to be arrested and throw in prison for years

For what crime?


For leaking the address of supremes court justices . The police also should be sent to clear that neighborhood out

Your side may get its way in overturning Roe, but you don't get to overturn the First Amendment as well. That would invite war.

This is undermining the free and fair judicial process, and clear example of intimidation

Where do you stand on Jan. 6th protesters being put in jail?

No problem with it whatsoever and also think the capitol rioters should be in prison for years
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« Reply #1245 on: May 09, 2022, 10:59:29 AM »

I've made my stance clear regarding riots, threats of violence, and protesting outside the homes of politicians.

National Democrats have also, repeatedly, consistently, loudly, been clear on this.

But that doesn't stop right-wingers from simply lying even more repeatedly, loudly and consistently.  For everyone one speech Joe Biden gives saying "don't engage in violence, don't send threats, etc." you have six hundred Republicans delivering monologues saying "Joe Biden is encouraging violence, telling people to send threats, etc."

If lying had any consequences whatsoever, the Republican Party would cease to exist tomorrow.  The entire party is built on lies.  Their entire political strategy is built on lies.  Their entire ideology is a big fat lie.  They lied about their convictions regarding the confirmation process, twice, to get Gorsuch and ACB onto the Supreme Court.  They lied on Kavanaugh's behalf and allowed him to repeatedly commit perjury to get him on the court.  They encouraged all three justices to lie about their plans regarding abortion to get on the court, and then lied that they believed those justices when they were lying.  Even now they're lying to our faces about their plans regarding abortion laws and how they intend to abuse Samuel Alito's ruling, which itself is packed full of lies.
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« Reply #1246 on: May 09, 2022, 11:22:19 AM »

In addition to the fact that the Alito moving story turned out to be fake to just put this outrage over the peaceful home protesting into perspective
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« Reply #1247 on: May 09, 2022, 12:38:40 PM »

In addition to the fact that the Alito moving story turned out to be fake to just put this outrage over the peaceful home protesting into perspective


Not to mention the many parents of trans kids having to flee Texas, etc.
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« Reply #1248 on: May 09, 2022, 12:51:06 PM »


Chip chip chipping away....
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« Reply #1249 on: May 09, 2022, 01:10:34 PM »

As usual, the left takes every measure possible to make it so difficult to agree with their highly reasonable request. Great job winning people over.
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