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Question: Human Fetus vs. Nonhuman Ape: which constitutes a person?
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A human fetus
 
#2
Nonhuman Great Apes
 
#3
Both are people
 
#4
Neither are people
 
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James Monroe
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« on: May 01, 2022, 04:37:20 PM »

Nonhuman Apes and Primates all across the globe deserve the same right as Homo sapiens. It makes no logical sense to denigrate our family because we happened to be the most advanced species of the extended family.  In the same way transgender people deserve the same opportunity as cis-hetereotsexeual people, or different races as blacks and Hispanics deserve the same equal treatment as Caucasian folks, so do our fellow primates who share many unique perspectives on life, even if they may lack the needed intelligence that advanced the human species into the dominant life form on Earth.  Let's treat our Gorillas and Chimpanzees the level of respect we give to our fellow man.
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James Monroe
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2022, 05:51:32 PM »

Nonhuman Apes and Primates all across the globe deserve the same right as Homo sapiens. It makes no logical sense to denigrate our family because we happened to be the most advanced species of the extended family.  In the same way transgender people deserve the same opportunity as cis-hetereotsexeual people, or different races as blacks and Hispanics deserve the same equal treatment as Caucasian folks, so do our fellow primates who share many unique perspectives on life, even if they may lack the needed intelligence that advanced the human species into the dominant life form on Earth.  Let's treat our Gorillas and Chimpanzees the level of respect we give to our fellow man.
Would you extend that level of sympathy to Sasquatch as well?

If Sasquatch exist I see no reason to bear it's qualities.
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James Monroe
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2022, 12:00:16 AM »

An unborn baby is made in the Image of God.  An ape or chimpanzee isn't.

You are an ape/primate. If mankind was made in the image of God, then so are our extended primate family.
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James Monroe
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2022, 10:32:24 AM »

An unborn baby is made in the Image of God.  An ape or chimpanzee isn't.

You are an ape/primate. If mankind was made in the image of God, then so are our extended primate family.

People are not animals.  Even leaving out the Creation argument where the Bible tells us we aren't, there are no animals that are capable of intelligent life and building a society in the same way that humans are.

Even in the Bible it states Mankind are a form of animals. We just happened to evolve into a supremely intelligent species that makes conception many abstract ideas, which is proven by the years of development from the first Homo species being similar to other Great Apes. Previous Homo species did not communicate or have the same conceptions as modern Homo sapiens. Neanderthals started to have their own language through the cravings of rocks, they still had a primitive thinking in areas where we surpass them, evidently with our own languages and the technologies that have been pioneered through the works of scientists and engineers in the last 300 years.
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James Monroe
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2022, 10:34:17 AM »

An unborn baby is made in the Image of God.  An ape or chimpanzee isn't.

You are an ape/primate. If mankind was made in the image of God, then so are our extended primate family.

People are not animals.  Even leaving out the Creation argument where the Bible tells us we aren't, there are no animals that are capable of intelligent life and building a society in the same way that humans are.
Chimpanzees (like most apes) are highly intelligent and operate in a complex social context. I see someone hasn't read Jane Goodall.

Yeah, Chimps have intelligence that make them more similar to Us than a non-born fetus. Look at the late Koko, a gorilla who communicate English sign language with fellow human beings.
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