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« Reply #375 on: November 09, 2023, 03:09:06 PM »

I imagine this marginally helps Alex Mooney, in the sense that there may be some Republicans who planned to vote for Justice in the primary in an effort to defeat Manchin. But now that the race is Safe R, some Republicans who like Mooney better may feel more comfortable voting for him since the Republican will win regardless.

That said, I still think Justice is heavily favored in the primary. He’s very likely to be the next senator from WV.
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« Reply #376 on: November 09, 2023, 03:10:18 PM »

Safe Republican -> Somehow even safer Republican
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« Reply #377 on: November 09, 2023, 03:12:27 PM »

No reason to pretend like Manchin had a chance. I think at best, his personal popularity could help him crack 40% in 2024. But him barely winning in 2018 in a perfect environment should be proof enough that he wouldn't stand a chance with presidential turnout.
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« Reply #378 on: November 09, 2023, 03:13:27 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2023, 03:17:11 PM by TheTide »

Around a decade ago I think there were Democratic senators in all of MT, AR, WV, OH, ND, SD, MO, IN and NE. Now there might not be any in any of those states in around a year's time.
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« Reply #379 on: November 09, 2023, 03:14:03 PM »

Right on cue the Cook Report shifts WV-SEN to "Solid Republican" following Manchins Retirement Announcement
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« Reply #380 on: November 09, 2023, 03:15:17 PM »

Right on cue the Cook Report shifts WV-SEN to "Solid Republican" following Manchins Retirement Announcement


What was it before?
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« Reply #381 on: November 09, 2023, 03:18:14 PM »

Right on cue the Cook Report shifts WV-SEN to "Solid Republican" following Manchins Retirement Announcement


What was it before?
Likely R I think
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« Reply #382 on: November 09, 2023, 03:20:10 PM »



This guy sounds awesome.

If only he had a chance. He'd definitely be one of the top FFs in Congress. Damn.
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« Reply #383 on: November 09, 2023, 03:23:43 PM »

Around a decade ago I think there were Democratic senators in all of MT, AR, WV, OH, ND, SD, MO, IN and NE. Now there might not be any in any of those states in around a year's time.

And there were Republican Senators in CO, GA, IL, NV, NH, and PA. Change has happened both ways.

BTW Manchin was always the most likely of the "big 3" to lose. I would not bet against Tester or Brown.
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« Reply #384 on: November 09, 2023, 03:28:04 PM »

Congratulations to senator elect Jim Justice.
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« Reply #385 on: November 09, 2023, 03:30:04 PM »

I don't think I'll be shedding any tears for the departure of this ultra corrupt corporate Democrat. In fact, I previously indicated that in the event he decided to change his partisan affiliation, I would have told him to go right ahead and do so.
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« Reply #386 on: November 09, 2023, 03:31:12 PM »

Good riddance.
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« Reply #387 on: November 09, 2023, 03:31:39 PM »

Around a decade ago I think there were Democratic senators in all of MT, AR, WV, OH, ND, SD, MO, IN and NE. Now there might not be any in any of those states in around a year's time.

Republicans are doing well in them for 23 years on the Presidential level, tells you how long it takes and how hard it is for Senate seats to flip.
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« Reply #388 on: November 09, 2023, 03:34:49 PM »


You will love his replacement

Race goes from Safe R to Titanium R
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« Reply #389 on: November 09, 2023, 03:36:46 PM »

Around a decade ago I think there were Democratic senators in all of MT, AR, WV, OH, ND, SD, MO, IN and NE. Now there might not be any in any of those states in around a year's time.

Republicans are doing well in them for 23 years on the Presidential level, tells you how long it takes and how hard it is for Senate seats to flip.

That stat is inflated by how well Democrats did in the mid 2000s, but obviously the down ballot trends in these types of states have been terrible for them.
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« Reply #390 on: November 09, 2023, 03:43:11 PM »

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« Reply #391 on: November 09, 2023, 03:44:11 PM »

Around a decade ago I think there were Democratic senators in all of MT, AR, WV, OH, ND, SD, MO, IN and NE. Now there might not be any in any of those states in around a year's time.

Republicans are doing well in them for 23 years on the Presidential level, tells you how long it takes and how hard it is for Senate seats to flip.

That stat is inflated by how well Democrats did in the mid 2000s, but obviously the down ballot trends in these types of states have been terrible for them.

Congress is usually an electoral echo of ancient Presidential results.
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« Reply #392 on: November 09, 2023, 03:45:59 PM »

Swap MO with WV
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« Reply #393 on: November 09, 2023, 03:48:20 PM »

You know I'm kind of surprised he didn't see Beshear's performance, particularly his strength in Appalachia, and use it to continue to delude himself into thinking he still has a shot.
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« Reply #394 on: November 09, 2023, 03:56:12 PM »

You know I'm kind of surprised he didn't see Beshear's performance, particularly his strength in Appalachia, and use it to continue to delude himself into thinking he still has a shot.

I genuinely think there's a chance he runs for Governor. In fact, I think Beshears performance might have pushed him in that direction.
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« Reply #395 on: November 09, 2023, 04:07:29 PM »

I definitely believe that Manchin has been actively detrimental to the Democratic cause the last few years, so as Snow said, good riddance and don't let the door hit you on the way out Joe.

Though I'm sure he'll be enjoying the revolving door of plenty of lobbyist gigs and money...

Only part that does absolutely worry me is judicial and cabinet appointments, but 'alas that's the American system.
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« Reply #396 on: November 09, 2023, 04:09:29 PM »

He’s obviously running for President.
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« Reply #397 on: November 09, 2023, 04:09:57 PM »

Around a decade ago I think there were Democratic senators in all of MT, AR, WV, OH, ND, SD, MO, IN and NE. Now there might not be any in any of those states in around a year's time.

And there were Republican Senators in CO, GA, IL, NV, NH, and PA. Change has happened both ways.

BTW Manchin was always the most likely of the "big 3" to lose. I would not bet against Tester or Brown.
True that Brown & Tester will be tougher to beat but Pro-Choice Activists in Ohio may have made a misjudgement by opting to have the OH Abortion Referendum on the 2023 Ballot instead of 2024.

Frank LaRose, Matt Dolan or Bernie Moreno can say to Brown "Look Sherrod, the Right to Reproductive Freedom is now already in the Ohio Constitution. What else do you want?"

And a similar Amendment was passed in Montana last year.
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« Reply #398 on: November 09, 2023, 04:12:07 PM »

He’s obviously running for President.

No he is not.
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« Reply #399 on: November 09, 2023, 04:15:30 PM »

Finally, this seat will be held by someone who can full-throatedly block Democrats from doing anything good as opposed to a guy who does it haphazardly while pretending there's nothing else he can do.
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