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« Reply #125 on: November 28, 2022, 08:24:00 PM »

It's not over til a poll tell it's OVER , not a single Incumbent lost reelection yet except for WARNOCK and early vote despite the 1 pt poll shows WARNOCK doing well

WVA isn't AL since 2000 it's split it's votes between Robert C Byrd, Jay Rockefeller and Manchin including 2012 Joe Manchin and Tester win with Obama when They carried both states

This is Robert C Byrd seat, he's vulnerable like Tester but he isn't DOA like users think
West Virginia is a very different State compared to the early 2000's or 2012. Republicans now outmumber Democrats in Registration in the State.
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« Reply #126 on: November 28, 2022, 09:20:52 PM »

We still need to see a POLL, Rs outnumbering Ds in KY and Beshear won, like I said I am not gonna count any of our Ds out until a poll

The last poll had Mooney up by 4 and Bevin was up 4 on Beshear that tells you right there if KY and WVA are 20 pt R states Beshear and Manchin are OUTNUMBERING RS by 16 pts, Doug Jones lost 60/40 Manchin wasn't down 60/40 he was behind 4
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« Reply #127 on: November 28, 2022, 09:28:20 PM »

We still need to see a POLL, Rs outnumbering Ds in KY and Beshear won, like I said I am not gonna count any of our Ds out until a poll

The last poll had Mooney up by 4 and Bevin was up 4 on Beshear that tells you right there if KY and WVA are 20 pt R states Beshear and Manchin are OUTNUMBERING RS by 16 pts, Doug Jones lost 60/40 Manchin wasn't down 60/40 he was behind 4
Again, totally false from you. When Beshear won in 2019 D's still had the Registration Advantage. The Advantage changed from D to R earlier this year.
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« Reply #128 on: November 28, 2022, 09:41:50 PM »

We still need to see a POLL, Rs outnumbering Ds in KY and Beshear won, like I said I am not gonna count any of our Ds out until a poll

The last poll had Mooney up by 4 and Bevin was up 4 on Beshear that tells you right there if KY and WVA are 20 pt R states Beshear and Manchin are OUTNUMBERING RS by 16 pts, Doug Jones lost 60/40 Manchin wasn't down 60/40 he was behind 4
Again, totally false from you. When Beshear won in 2019 D's still had the Registration Advantage. The Advantage changed from D to R earlier this year.

It's not false info even though Ds outnumbering Rs when Rs win KY by 20 pts every Prez Eday and Beshear overperforning the Generic D in a Presidential race by 22 pts

We will see what happens in KY Gov then we will know for sure how Ds are gonna do in red states, Laura Kelly just won in another R plus 20 state KS and we got our clocks cleaned in OH
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« Reply #129 on: December 01, 2022, 11:24:56 PM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol
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« Reply #130 on: December 01, 2022, 11:25:55 PM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol

Don Blankenship.
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« Reply #131 on: December 01, 2022, 11:28:36 PM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol

Don Blankenship.

What about serial underperformer Alex Mooney? He's already thrown his hat in the ring
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« Reply #132 on: December 01, 2022, 11:30:41 PM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol

Don Blankenship.

What about serial underperformer Alex Mooney? He's already thrown his hat in the ring

Blankenship would make Mooney look like Brian Fitzpatrick.
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« Reply #133 on: December 01, 2022, 11:34:57 PM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol

Don Blankenship.

What about serial underperformer Alex Mooney? He's already thrown his hat in the ring

Blankenship would make Mooney look like Brian Fitzpatrick.

Ya Blankenship is Ray Moore tier
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« Reply #134 on: December 01, 2022, 11:37:50 PM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol

Don Blankenship.

What about serial underperformer Alex Mooney? He's already thrown his hat in the ring

Blankenship would make Mooney look like Brian Fitzpatrick.

Ya Blankenship is Ray Moore tier

I mean Roy Moore actually has appeal to some people (far-right christians, which are a big part of Alabama) while Blankenship is a gaffe-prone weak billionaire in a relatively secular, populist state.
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« Reply #135 on: December 01, 2022, 11:38:09 PM »

@Tekken_Guy,
Popular Republican Governors in Red States have a pretty good track record getting elected to the Senate see John Hoeven in ND or Mike Rounds in SD so if Jim Justice gets in this is pretty much an Automatic Pick Up for Republicans.
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« Reply #136 on: December 01, 2022, 11:46:57 PM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol

Don Blankenship.

What about serial underperformer Alex Mooney? He's already thrown his hat in the ring

Blankenship would make Mooney look like Brian Fitzpatrick.

Ya Blankenship is Ray Moore tier

I mean Roy Moore actually has appeal to some people (far-right christians, which are a big part of Alabama) while Blankenship is a gaffe-prone weak billionaire in a relatively secular, populist state.

Plus his coal mine literally blew up
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« Reply #137 on: December 01, 2022, 11:47:16 PM »

@Tekken_Guy,
Popular Republican Governors in Red States have a pretty good track record getting elected to the Senate see John Hoeven in ND or Mike Rounds in SD so if Jim Justice gets in this is pretty much an Automatic Pick Up for Republicans.

To be fair Hoeven and Rounds weren’t facing incumbents. And rounds had been out of office for four years by the time he was elected Senator.
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« Reply #138 on: December 02, 2022, 12:15:35 AM »

What would it actually take for Manchin to get re-elected and actually represent WV into the 2030s lol

Don Blankenship.

What about serial underperformer Alex Mooney? He's already thrown his hat in the ring

Blankenship would make Mooney look like Brian Fitzpatrick.

Ya Blankenship is Ray Moore tier

I mean Roy Moore actually has appeal to some people (far-right christians, which are a big part of Alabama) while Blankenship is a gaffe-prone weak billionaire in a relatively secular, populist state.

Plus his coal mine literally blew up

Which neutralizes some of the coal appeal.
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« Reply #139 on: December 02, 2022, 07:27:55 AM »

@Tekken_Guy,
Popular Republican Governors in Red States have a pretty good track record getting elected to the Senate see John Hoeven in ND or Mike Rounds in SD so if Jim Justice gets in this is pretty much an Automatic Pick Up for Republicans.

To be fair Hoeven and Rounds weren’t facing incumbents. And rounds had been out of office for four years by the time he was elected Senator.
If Justice gets in there is a reasonable chance Manchin might retire and call it a career.
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« Reply #140 on: December 02, 2022, 08:42:14 AM »

I doubt it due to fact he still wants to be political and Shelly Moore Capito son is odds on fav to win the Gov so he is running for Sen, and aside Tester can lose too so we must keep Manchin in this seat unless he loses

It's gonna be 51/49 Sen anyways if Gallego whom is being recruited by Barber to challenge Sinema and Manchin loses its still a tied S and since Ds are favs to win H on CA and NY if both Brown and Tester both won we can nuke the Filibuster 51/50, but Brown and Tester and we must win the H in order for that to happen but we are close
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« Reply #141 on: December 12, 2022, 02:16:04 PM »

Senator Joe Manchin is truly done in WV come 2024.
A new Poll from WMOV & Triton Research shows only 26 % of West Virginia Voters have an Favorable Opinion of him while 66 % have an Unfavorable Opinion of him.
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« Reply #142 on: January 13, 2023, 09:12:27 AM »

Justice says he is probably running

https://wvmetronews.com/2023/01/13/justice-probably-running-for-senate/
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« Reply #143 on: January 13, 2023, 09:16:23 AM »

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« Reply #144 on: January 13, 2023, 12:40:05 PM »

What's up with all these septuagenarians running to become freshmen senators?
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« Reply #145 on: January 13, 2023, 12:56:50 PM »

What's up with all these septuagenarians running to become freshmen senators?

Its a mix between small benches and the voters just letting it happen
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« Reply #146 on: January 13, 2023, 01:17:04 PM »
« Edited: January 13, 2023, 02:14:31 PM by Peltola for God Empress »


Justice is a scoundrel who doesn’t pay his bills. He’s literally Mr. Porter from its a wonderful life. I was going to say he’d been an awful candidate, but he has somehow conned the WV voters into liking him so idk
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« Reply #147 on: January 13, 2023, 02:32:25 PM »


Probably the best possible outcome. Manchin should switch to gubernatorial or retire.
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« Reply #148 on: January 13, 2023, 03:41:24 PM »

Hot take: With Justice running, there’s a serious chance Manchin does worse than Blanche and he could possibly top Wesley Jones’ 1932 defeat if he stays in, and I think Manchin knows that. I expect he retires if/when Justice makes it official.

What's up with all these septuagenarians running to become freshmen senators?

In this case, I suspect it’s a consequence of the rivalry Manchin+Justice developed shortly after Justice’s party switch.
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« Reply #149 on: January 13, 2023, 04:10:04 PM »

I think Governor Justice is trying to coax Senator Manchin into Retirement.

I remember then North Dakota Governor John Hoeven doing the same thing with Senator Byron Dorgan in 2010.
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