SR 108-24: Articles of Impeachment against President OBD (Convicted)

[OSR stands with Israel]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye

[Saint Milei]

Aye

[Mr. Reactionary]

That makes 11.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

AYE

[If my soul was made of stone]

AYE

[WD]

Final vote on the Articles of Impeachment:

Aye (13): Western Democrat, MB, West Midlander, Kuumo, Ishan, Mr. R, Weatherboy, Joseph Cao, Old School Republican, North Carolina Yankee, DeadPrez, Muad’dib, Discolovante

Nay (0):

Not voting (5): S019, Falterin, Tack, Beesley, CalamityBlue

3/5th of the Senate voting in favor, these Articles of Impeachment are adopted, the Senate proceeds to trial, and the Chief Justice is called to preside of the trial.

[beesley]

Aye for the record

[S019]

NAY, for the record. What OBD did was harmful to the game, yes, but it was not harmful to the forum community at large. I believe the forum community trumps our little community here, as a result, I am still disgusted that nothing has been done about LT who caused very real harm to the forum community. On principle, I just can't support this unless LT's far worse transgressions are sanctioned in some way (ideally his removal as Southern governor).

[fhtagn]

NAY, for the record. What OBD did was harmful to the game, yes, but it was not harmful to the forum community at large. I believe the forum community trumps our little community here, as a result, I am still disgusted that nothing has been done about LT who caused very real harm to the forum community. On principle, I just can't support this unless LT's far worse transgressions are sanctioned in some way (ideally his removal as Southern governor).

lmao

[S019]

NAY, for the record. What OBD did was harmful to the game, yes, but it was not harmful to the forum community at large. I believe the forum community trumps our little community here, as a result, I am still disgusted that nothing has been done about LT who caused very real harm to the forum community. On principle, I just can't support this unless LT's far worse transgressions are sanctioned in some way (ideally his removal as Southern governor).

lmao

Going to present an explanation or will you just randomly praise Mussolini again?

[fhtagn]

NAY, for the record. What OBD did was harmful to the game, yes, but it was not harmful to the forum community at large. I believe the forum community trumps our little community here, as a result, I am still disgusted that nothing has been done about LT who caused very real harm to the forum community. On principle, I just can't support this unless LT's far worse transgressions are sanctioned in some way (ideally his removal as Southern governor).

lmao

Going to present an explanation or will you just randomly praise Mussolini again?

What's there to explain? Your position on this is a joke considering your role in this.

[Mr. Reactionary]

NAY, for the record. What OBD did was harmful to the game, yes, but it was not harmful to the forum community at large. I believe the forum community trumps our little community here, as a result, I am still disgusted that nothing has been done about LT who caused very real harm to the forum community. On principle, I just can't support this unless LT's far worse transgressions are sanctioned in some way (ideally his removal as Southern governor).

lmao

Imagine saying no one should ever be convicted of a crime again until OJ simpson is double jeopardied.

[S019]

NAY, for the record. What OBD did was harmful to the game, yes, but it was not harmful to the forum community at large. I believe the forum community trumps our little community here, as a result, I am still disgusted that nothing has been done about LT who caused very real harm to the forum community. On principle, I just can't support this unless LT's far worse transgressions are sanctioned in some way (ideally his removal as Southern governor).

lmao

Imagine saying no one should ever be convicted of a crime again until OJ simpson is double jeopardied.

The difference is that this isn't real life, this is a tiny subset of the Internet located within a much larger, but still minuscule portion of the Internet. The forum at large still trumps Atlasia and thus offenses which consequences for the forum, at large, should be prioritized in being dealt with.

[Sestak]

Wait, is suburban trying to claim that Atlasian government has authority over the forum at large and should be judged accordingly? Secretly based?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Wait, is suburban trying to claim that Atlasian government has authority over the forum at large and should be judged accordingly? Secretly based?

I mean back in the day Atlasia was considered to be forum community inclusive, but we are talking 2004 for that. It wasn't so even in 2008, because a number of community members were never in or were and don't want to be again.

[Sestak]

Wait, is suburban trying to claim that Atlasian government has authority over the forum at large and should be judged accordingly? Secretly based?

I mean back in the day Atlasia was considered to be forum community inclusive, but we are talking 2004 for that. It wasn't so even in 2008, because a number of community members were never in or were and don't want to be again.

Well, we did pass a bill during my administration that declared a forum-wide holiday, so I think it's safe to say at least some of those 2004 powers are still intact.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Wait, is suburban trying to claim that Atlasian government has authority over the forum at large and should be judged accordingly? Secretly based?

I mean back in the day Atlasia was considered to be forum community inclusive, but we are talking 2004 for that. It wasn't so even in 2008, because a number of community members were never in or were and don't want to be again.

Well, we did pass a bill during my administration that declared a forum-wide holiday, so I think it's safe to say at least some of those 2004 powers are still intact.

I recall raising these concerns at the time.

[Sestak]

Wait, is suburban trying to claim that Atlasian government has authority over the forum at large and should be judged accordingly? Secretly based?

I mean back in the day Atlasia was considered to be forum community inclusive, but we are talking 2004 for that. It wasn't so even in 2008, because a number of community members were never in or were and don't want to be again.

Well, we did pass a bill during my administration that declared a forum-wide holiday, so I think it's safe to say at least some of those 2004 powers are still intact.

I recall raising these concerns at the time.

Well, too bad.

We now have originalist evidence (the original framers in 2004 seemed intent on creating a 'forum government' this way, and each subsequent constitution has been procedurally built on the last) as well as continual usage (2021 law). The case is clear. Time to overthrow YE and Virginia )

[It’s so Joever]

Wait, is suburban trying to claim that Atlasian government has authority over the forum at large and should be judged accordingly? Secretly based?

I mean back in the day Atlasia was considered to be forum community inclusive, but we are talking 2004 for that. It wasn't so even in 2008, because a number of community members were never in or were and don't want to be again.

Well, we did pass a bill during my administration that declared a forum-wide holiday, so I think it's safe to say at least some of those 2004 powers are still intact.

I recall raising these concerns at the time.

Well, too bad.

We now have originalist evidence (the original framers in 2004 seemed intent on creating a 'forum government' this way, and each subsequent constitution has been procedurally built on the last) as well as continual usage (2021 law). The case is clear. Time to overthrow YE and Virginia )

Given the state of discourse on the forum right now and what is expected of mods these days, I’m pretty sure they both would willingly hand over power without a fight.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Wait, is suburban trying to claim that Atlasian government has authority over the forum at large and should be judged accordingly? Secretly based?

I mean back in the day Atlasia was considered to be forum community inclusive, but we are talking 2004 for that. It wasn't so even in 2008, because a number of community members were never in or were and don't want to be again.

Well, we did pass a bill during my administration that declared a forum-wide holiday, so I think it's safe to say at least some of those 2004 powers are still intact.

I recall raising these concerns at the time.

Well, too bad.

We now have originalist evidence (the original framers in 2004 seemed intent on creating a 'forum government' this way, and each subsequent constitution has been procedurally built on the last) as well as continual usage (2021 law). The case is clear. Time to overthrow YE and Virginia )

Given the state of discourse on the forum right now and what is expected of mods these days, I’m pretty sure they both would willingly hand over power without a fight.

Yea, but in the process forcing people who the game who have either never desired to join or left it behind years ago would probably lead to a nasty situation.

What Sestak is ignoring is the evolution of the situation since then, whereby the game evolved to be independent with its own lore, story and such forth and thus separate and distinct from just a "forum mock government" that it started as.

Yes, I am challenging his "originalism" with that of evolving views and interpretations.

[windjammer]

Asking unanimous consent to go to a final vote. 24 hours to object.

[beesley]

No objection.

[WD]

No objection.

[windjammer]

A final vote is now open..please vote guilty or not guilty