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« on: April 29, 2022, 10:27:43 AM »

https://www.lesechos.fr/elections/presidentielle/legislatives-ecologistes-et-socialistes-proches-dun-accord-avec-la-france-insoumise-1403893

An update on the earlier news, PS has suspended negotiations, at least for now, citing LFI's "hegemonic logic" among other things.
So they agree to essentially every policy concession, but now back away? I think this all boils down to local PS chiefs afraid of losing their sinecures rather than any serious "hegemonic logic."
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2022, 12:22:52 PM »

They've agreed to it, but this is the last nail in the coffin for them. The party will rip apart because many will still want to hedge their bets tying themselves to Macronisme instead of following the diktat of the Strasserite Robespierre redux.

Overall I'm sad because it's the final death of the pro-EU Left. And of the governmental Left in general. I would still vote for a joint LFI-PS-EELV-PCF ticket if it weren't for janluk - he is an execrable social fascist and any legislative gain serves to reinforce his image. A shame Roussel cannot be put front and centre this campaign.
Roussel would be better suited as the spokesman of a medium tier sausage brand like Johnsonville Brats or the late afternoon entertainment at a senior citizens home. Those are his real strengths, outside of pandering to cops.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2022, 03:58:13 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2022, 04:03:50 PM by warandwar »

Anyone know how/why FI got all of the colonies?

Wondering if theres any rhyme or reason for GE and G.s's seats, also.

Edit: NPA says they are being offered 5 unwinnable seats. Not sure what the right move for them there is. Whatever they choose, i'm sure half of the party will leave over it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2022, 11:47:34 AM »

I would urge people to look at the french language stuff about Taha. He's a target of like constant media attacks for filming police brutality and there's not infrequent claims of "reverse racism." It really speaks to the PCF's decline that they feel the need to defend the honor of the flic here...
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2022, 11:56:52 AM »

Predictably the storm is slowly merging into becoming about his ethnicity, with LFI candidates playing on the canard that all Arabs are aggressive in language and tone ergo its racist (and classist) that people are attacking him on his previous statements about white women being "whores" for trying to act like Rosa Parks...*sigh*
Roussel is saying Taha is not fit because of his previous conviction "for "contempt" and "rebellion" towards a police officer, whom he himself accuses of violence during his arrest in 2019 in margin of a demonstration."
Speaks for itself!
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2022, 04:05:50 PM »

If you want to set a standard of banning anyone who uses "pute" from running for office, that's fine (it's more like b**** in how its used, for context). If you want to call it sexist, thats fine. But saying that it is racist to call someone a "white b***h" is laughable and absolutely is racist.

The broader political thing here is that its probably best to avoid running celebrity candidates (thats who Taha is, for better or for worse) if you can help it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2022, 04:35:57 PM »

Qu'est-ce que c'est ... dégueulasses ?
Slangy way of saying gross
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2022, 06:53:59 PM »



Anyway, back on topic, to preview the main event. I'm not informed enough about local politics to comment, but in 2017 the result was marginal, and if you supposedly add the blocks as defined together, you get another 50-50 runoff.
The current LREM deputy faced some heat for covid stuff. So i guess rightish local politician with strong opinions about fish quotas or whatever vs based basque LFI guy follows...
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2022, 09:59:39 PM »



Once again, don't have much to say other than Macronism holding up rather well in a overseas region. I would ignore the labels for the minors cause there are a lot of local parties that are aesthetically 'left' but whose supporters have other reasons for their vote, similar to some other Caribbean countries. Comparing to 2017 and the by-election though suggests a narrow runoff.



This ones even more localized.
No Davy Rimane and others are definitely "left" in a very political, anti-colonial way. I think this is the third straight runoff between the two...

St. Martin and St. Barths almost certainly comes back to covid. It devastated tourist-dependent colonies in the caribbean so i'm not surprised voters would ditch the incumbent (part of a larger trend in the region).
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2022, 05:40:58 AM »

The winner in Polynésie française 1 is only 21 year old.
Incredible win. Many of these colonial elections don't look especially parochial.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2022, 06:23:24 AM »

The winner in Polynésie française 1 is only 21 year old.
Incredible win. Many of these colonial elections don't look especially parochial.

I mean, setting aside biases for a moment, most of these candidates didn't have a particular national alliance pre-election. They just said they would sit in NUPES cause they are left and NUPES is Left - if NUPES splits then they'll find a new faction to align with since their parties are too small for a viable voice. All 8 in Martinique said they would align with NUPES after round 1 for instance.

A lot of these winners are autonomists, sovereigntist, independists, or a reaction to those movements. Which should perhaps be expected after a pandemic sapped all tourism money, exposing faultlines that have been there for decades. The metropole politicians have never really cared about the islands besides a few pet issues that crop up, it just took there being an incumbent for these sections of voters to have someone to direct their feelings against at the ballot box. And the nationalists promise that such feelings can go away in the future - so why wouldn't you vote for them.
Independence movements in the colonies ebb and flow. Plenty of reasons to not support them, or continue to support incumbents - especially when districts are gerrymandered for such purposes (the polynesian wins are pretty remarkable here). But clearly some regional trends here, outside of NUPES, that go beyond "local interests" and the like.
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2022, 03:09:11 PM »

especially seeing as Mélenchon seemed to go full hippie/FREE ASSANGE in the last week in a way that I can't imagine was necessarily the most appealing to the sort of voters who decide those run-offs.

Méluche serenading us with La société du spectacle rhetoric on the commodification of time was pretty iconic, but I don't exactly know what the intended audience was. I can easily imagine the Situationists all ending up like my "hippie got a white-collar job" father, or just going so deep into the machinery that it totalizes them, or, you know, dying.
The Situationist International was like 20 people max. More of a millieu around Debord than a real organization. Most remained pretty serious artists and writers and I can't think of any off the top of my head who went "straight" - that was more les maos
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