Is the Center-Right currently in crises all across the west

[OSR stands with Israel]

The UK seems to be the only  real exception to this and even then they have made changes to their party . Otherwise :

In the US : The Trumpist wing took over the Republican Party

In Canada : The Tories seem too divided

In NZ : The National party seems completely lost in the wilderness

In Germany : the CDU collapsed to one of their worst ever totals

In Australia: the Liberals are on the verge of being routed in the upcoming elections

In France : The Republicans in France have fallen out of top 2 party status


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/22/center-right-is-collapsing-globally-it-has-only-two-options-survival/


This article even talks about how they seem in trouble in other nations too

Scandinavian polls show national populist parties obtaining between 11 and 19 percent of the vote. EKRE, Estonia’s populist incarnation, now leads that nation’s polls with 22 percent, while the Flemish separatist and anti-immigrant Vlaams Belang leads Belgian surveys. National populist parties in Austria and Spain are polling in the high-teens, and a trio of nationalist parties garnered nearly a quarter of Dutch voters in recent surveys

[parochial boy]

The problem is that this is the pendant of the "social democrats" or the "left is in crisis" line that was/still is doing the rounds. And that is even more the case given that the centre-right parties of the west often have quite varying ideological backgrounds and have often adopted quite distinct strategies in recent years.

I mean, for example the Republicans and Conservatives have done well having also incorporated varying elements of radical-populist messaging (and this predates Brexit btw).

Macron who is nothing if not the centre-right candidate of the 2022 is going to be crushingly re-elected. And him coming from a liberal rather than Gaullist tradition doesn't change this.

In Germany, the CDU suffered from atrocious messaging while the FDP did well. In Switzerland the story isn't all to different that while the PLR/FDP are sinking, the more progressive minded GreenLiberals are flying. Different countries have different stories.

That is, perhaps the best you can do is to liken the story of the traditional centre-right parties to the traditional centre-left ones. As in, it is very often the case that traditional party allegiances have collapsed in the light of the social and economic changes of recent decades; that this collapse of old partisan loyalties - especially among younger people socialised in a new and different political culture - will basically mathematically hurt the traditionally dominant parties and leave them with declining and ageing electorates. (and even this is a simplification as it emphatically hasn't been the case everywhere).

If this has been widely remarked on with Social Democratic parties recent years, it hasn't really been talked about with regards to right of centre parties up until now. Probably because they have managed to stay in power up until very recently. But the overall phenomenon of declining support for these parties is something that has been underway for a while now.

[Mike88]

I don't think it has anything to do with ideology or something related. In several countries, the center-right have been in power for a long time in the last decade or so, and now it's just normal wearing off of governments:

UK: The Tories are in power since 2010, and have faced a lot of crisis from Brexit to Covid to, most recently, party gate;

Canada: The Harper era (2006-2015) still has a negative impact in voters minds and this may hurt the party, but they still gather around 34% of the votes;

New Zealand: John Key departure in 2017, left the National Party basically leaderless and Jacinda's good management of the early stages of Covid hurt them. But, recent polls suggest that the party is making a recovery and is now neck and neck with Labour;

Germany: The departure of a big and powerfull leader like Angela Merkel, in power for 16 years, had to had an impact in the party's results, especially if it is replaced with someone like Laschet. But, also, recent polls put SPD and CDU neck and neck;

Australia: The Liberals are in power since 2013, with 3 different leaders and a decade in power has its toll. In 2019, they were forecast to lose but came back from the dead with a surprise victory. This time, a repeat seems difficult, however;

France: Both center-right and center-left collapsed and the right now France has to basically pick between Macron or a left/right wing radical;

So, just like a few years ago, the center-left was collapsing, now center-right governments are having a difficult time. It's all a time circle.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

The people who previously voted for center-right candidates still exist, it's just that the increased culture war rhetoric and polarization mean that the previous system- where it was taken as a given that each party had their own liberal and conservative wings, along with many in between- has been replaced by one where people (mainly suburban educated folks) pass on economic policies they like because they care about social issues more.

[Flyersfan232]

The UK seems to be the only  real exception to this and even then they have made changes to their party . Otherwise :

In the US : The Trumpist wing took over the Republican Party

In Canada : The Tories seem too divided

In NZ : The National party seems completely lost in the wilderness

In Germany : the CDU collapsed to one of their worst ever totals

In Australia: the Liberals are on the verge of being routed in the upcoming elections

In France : The Republicans in France have fallen out of top 2 party status


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/22/center-right-is-collapsing-globally-it-has-only-two-options-survival/


This article even talks about how they seem in trouble in other nations too

Scandinavian polls show national populist parties obtaining between 11 and 19 percent of the vote. EKRE, Estonia’s populist incarnation, now leads that nation’s polls with 22 percent, while the Flemish separatist and anti-immigrant Vlaams Belang leads Belgian surveys. National populist parties in Austria and Spain are polling in the high-teens, and a trio of nationalist parties garnered nearly a quarter of Dutch voters in recent surveys

the gop is looking good for November and things and are starting to look good for the national  party

[Conservatopia]

I don't think it has anything to do with ideology or something related. In several countries, the center-right have been in power for a long time in the last decade or so, and now it's just normal wearing off of governments:

UK: The Tories are in power since 2010, and have faced a lot of crisis from Brexit to Covid to, most recently, party gate;

Canada: The Harper era (2006-2015) still has a negative impact in voters minds and this may hurt the party, but they still gather around 34% of the votes;

New Zealand: John Key departure in 2017, left the National Party basically leaderless and Jacinda's good management of the early stages of Covid hurt them. But, recent polls suggest that the party is making a recovery and is now neck and neck with Labour;

Germany: The departure of a big and powerfull leader like Angela Merkel, in power for 16 years, had to had an impact in the party's results, especially if it is replaced with someone like Laschet. But, also, recent polls put SPD and CDU neck and neck;

Australia: The Liberals are in power since 2013, with 3 different leaders and a decade in power has its toll. In 2019, they were forecast to lose but came back from the dead with a surprise victory. This time, a repeat seems difficult, however;

France: Both center-right and center-left collapsed and the right now France has to basically pick between Macron or a left/right wing radical;

So, just like a few years ago, the center-left was collapsing, now center-right governments are having a difficult time. It's all a time circle.

Agreed. Essentially it's more of a coincedence that centre-right parties are struggling the past two years rather than anything very seismic. Most likely the AU Liberals, CDU and possibly the Tories (UK & Canada) will be leading in the polls this time next year.

Also, as mentioned above, Macron is really a centre-rightist, if an untraditional one.

[buritobr]

In Brazil, the center-right is dead in the 2022 presidential election. We are sure now that no other candidate than Lula and Bolsonaro will be elected. The sum of center-right candidates in the polls is no more than 10%.

[CumbrianLefty]

I don't think it has anything to do with ideology or something related. In several countries, the center-right have been in power for a long time in the last decade or so, and now it's just normal wearing off of governments:

UK: The Tories are in power since 2010, and have faced a lot of crisis from Brexit to Covid to, most recently, party gate;

Canada: The Harper era (2006-2015) still has a negative impact in voters minds and this may hurt the party, but they still gather around 34% of the votes;

New Zealand: John Key departure in 2017, left the National Party basically leaderless and Jacinda's good management of the early stages of Covid hurt them. But, recent polls suggest that the party is making a recovery and is now neck and neck with Labour;

Germany: The departure of a big and powerfull leader like Angela Merkel, in power for 16 years, had to had an impact in the party's results, especially if it is replaced with someone like Laschet. But, also, recent polls put SPD and CDU neck and neck;

Australia: The Liberals are in power since 2013, with 3 different leaders and a decade in power has its toll. In 2019, they were forecast to lose but came back from the dead with a surprise victory. This time, a repeat seems difficult, however;

France: Both center-right and center-left collapsed and the right now France has to basically pick between Macron or a left/right wing radical;

So, just like a few years ago, the center-left was collapsing, now center-right governments are having a difficult time. It's all a time circle.

Agreed. Essentially it's more of a coincedence that centre-right parties are struggling the past two years rather than anything very seismic. Most likely the AU Liberals, CDU and possibly the Tories (UK & Canada) will be leading in the polls this time next year.

Also, as mentioned above, Macron is really a centre-rightist, if an untraditional one.

Well they may (though I have my doubts about the UK given they will surely still be in power then, in contrast to the others you mention) But that doesn't detract from the wider point that the approach these parties took come the end of the post-war consensus, and which served them well electorally for much of the following four decades, is finally running out of road.

[Sir Mohamed]

I didn't read the full WaPo article, though my analysis would be most center-right parties (and center-left to a non-neglectable degree) failed to address a whole range of issues concerning more and more people that come with time and in conjunction with globalization. Populist movements on right and left are very successful in reducing these issues into simple platitudes and present simple answers to complex problems. More estbalishment-oriented parties and factions within parties largely failed to counter this effectively and only seem to provide answers that seem technocratic or out of touch with common people. In some cases, they seem pretty clueless, imho.

While a left-right divide still exists, I believe the political conversation in recent years has shifted into a debate over globalization. Establishment politicans on the center-right and center-left tend to support globalization, are pro-free trade with marginal differences, favor immigration and multilateralism. Populist movements are the opposite; rejection of immigration, isolationist foreign policy, opposition to multinational organizations and anti-free trade. In many cases the former also support bold climate action, while latter don't or outright deny man-made climate change. We also saw this frontline over Covid restrictions and a general trust into public institutions.

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Somewhat related:
https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1509192591249752072

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Somewhat related:
https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1509192591249752072

Canada, Japan, and Australia doing quite well! What would explain that?

[Alben Barkley]

Center-right seems to have given way to the far right across much of the world, yes. That leaves the center-left as the only valid option for those who care about liberal democratic values at all in many places.

[Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela]

Really, the issue is just that you win some, you lose some. Some people got very attached to the whole 'centre-left in inexorable decline' narrative for their own reasons, and now that it looks like it may not have been true they're overcorrecting. parochial boy is right about the context, but what all of that means above all is that few things are fixed nowadays and outside of very politically polarised societies, the last election tells you almost nothing about the next. Maybe in a year's time a lot of these new centre-left governments will be in the polling doldrums and the discourse will be right back where it started, and still as annoying as ever.

[CumbrianLefty]

Of course Macron losing to le Pen (something I still do not actually expect btw) would put the turbo chargers under this new "thesis".

Btw the likes of "Professor" Badlose are *still* propagating the original line about the centre-left. In the recent Portuguese election he fixated his attention almost solely on the party who came third on around 8% of the vote, quite literally ignoring who actually won.

[GeneralMacArthur]

It'd be easier for the center-right to hold if allegedly center-right voters like yourself didn't allow yourselves to be easily co-opted by the far right.  You hold your own party to no standard and accept any Fox News explanation for all their crimes and moral transgressions.

[Torie]

I find the parties across the spectrum largely adrift at the moment, generating oxygen for the demagogues and kooks out there to prosper and multiply.