If Trump was still President, would Russia have invaded Ukraine already?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Obviously. And he'd probably try to send aid to Russia too, although he probably wouldn't succeed because the CIA and military wouldn't go along with it.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Yes, it doesn't matter because John Paul Ii was from Poland and instrumental with NATO in getting Communist out of Satellites and he is dead the new Pope doesn't do politics

So, an argument can be made that yes Putin would have invaded anyways don't you think it's strange that Russia won't go to Poland or Germany where US troops are, only tries with Ukraine but why hasn't Ukraine declared it's Neutral cycle like Ireland and can avoid this

It doesn't matter he is in Ukraine now anyways

[BlueSwan]

No, because Trump was doing Putins work for him, so there would be no need. And no, I am not talking about Trump being a russian agent, but rather about Trump dividing the US and weakening the western alliance, which is Putins primary goal.

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

I don't really think Russia invading Ukraine would depend if Biden or Trump were president.

[Inmate Trump]

According to almost every Trumper I know, this wouldn’t be happening if Trump were still president.

[BlueSwan]

According to almost every Trumper I know, this wouldn’t be happening if Trump were still president.

Well, they are likely right, but for the wrong reasons. They think it is because Trump is a strong leader, when in reality it would be because Trump is already doing what Putin wants to effectuate.

[redjohn]

Who the U.S. President is has no bearing on this situation. So far, Biden's repeated statements declaring that Putin will invade will reduce any shock and awe effects for when/if he really does invade. He's doing (again, so far) everything a competent U.S. President could be doing in this situation. Putin's motives for invading Ukraine clearly go far beyond which individual is in the seat of American power. It's much more about NATO pressure, economic issues, and domestic politics. I honestly don't think Putin's actions would be any different with Trump in office, other than Trump probably feeling an obligation to tell him to stand down and coming off completely insincere.

[7,052,770]

Yes, because Trump would have told him to go for it, so there wouldn't have been any reason for Putin not to.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I suspect that, facing threats from both Putin and Trump to bow to Putin's wishes, Zelenskyy's government would have caved or collapsed.

[T'Chenka]

Yes, it doesn't matter because John Paul Ii was from Poland and instrumental with NATO in getting Communist out of Satellites and he is dead the new Pope doesn't do politics

The new pope is a woke socialist.

[DrScholl]

Of course. There would have been no diplomacy on the part of a Trump Administration to try and stop an invasion.

[Pres Mike]

I do not think Putin would be invading Ukraine. Trump made repeated statements about the US withdrawing from NATO if he won a second term. Putin would be contempt with watching the US continue to be destabilize under incompetent leadership while the western alliance fractured.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

[FT-02 Senator A.F.E. 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Perhaps. Look at what happened to our Kurdish allies in Syria.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

According to almost every Trumper I know, this wouldn’t be happening if Trump were still president.

Exactly correct.

[HisGrace]

Putin was going to do this no matter who the president was. Short of actual military intervention I don't think we can do anything to stop it.

[7,052,770]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

Delusional. Russia's desire for the territory wouldn't be any different. The thing that would be different is that President Trump wouldn't have cared if Putin took the whole country.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

Uh, this is the same man who endorsed the Russian invasion of Crimea using the exact logic the Russian's use to justify it. So press X to doubt.

[Blue3]

I think one reason why Putin is moving now is because Trump is no longer president, so he can later lead disinformation like "Trump was so much better than Russia, Crimea in 2014 and __ in 2022 occurred under Democrats but nothing under Trump because he was their friend" etc.

[Fuzzy Bear]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

[7,052,770]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

"Delusional. Russia's desire for the territory wouldn't be any different. The thing that would be different is that President Trump wouldn't have cared if Putin took the whole country."

[Santander]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

"Delusional. Russia's desire for the territory wouldn't be any different. The thing that would be different is that President Trump wouldn't have cared if Putin took the whole country."

Weakness is provocative. Biden is not respected at all by Putin or Xi. In fact, he is somehow less respected than the black guy from a few years ago.

Trump was respected as a strong leader with real popular support who they could work with.

[It’s so Joever]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

Explain

[7,052,770]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

"Delusional. Russia's desire for the territory wouldn't be any different. The thing that would be different is that President Trump wouldn't have cared if Putin took the whole country."

Weakness is provocative. Biden is not respected at all by Putin or Xi. In fact, he is somehow less respected than the black guy from a few years ago.

Trump was respected as a strong leader with real popular support who they could work with.

Trump was "respected" because he explicitly endorsed their goals. He told Xi that Uighur concentration camps were good. He openly supported Russia's annexation of Crimea. He would obviously be vocally encouraging Putin to attack Ukraine now.

Putin decision to attack Ukraine is not hinging on whether the American president is "weak" or "strong" anyway. But I'm sure it would be nice to have a US president signaling support to theworld, which is what he would have in the dark dystopic timeline where Trump is still president.

[Fuzzy Bear]

If Trump was President Russia wouldn't be invading Ukraine at all

Explain

Trump managed to go through an entire term with no new wars and no Russian expansion.  The issues in Ukraine during the Obama years didn't go away.

Biden is senile, Harris is incompetent, and Putin is an "Intel Guy" that knows it.  He's exploiting these factors.  Trump was a strong President in that he was not afraid to take unconventional risks for peace and other leaders understood that.  They also understood that Trump would not draw red lines he wasn't willing to cross.

Trump was also unencumbered by "what the rest of the world thinks".  Most of that means concern for the multinational corporations, etc.  Trump was, truly, American First, and that very fact was a deterrant.  Putin is Russia First; he understands that.