Concert of Europe Part IV

[YPestis25]

I think while I would ultimately prefer to take Scandinavia back again, I'll be happy with whatever the GM decides.

[Orwell]

I think while I would ultimately prefer to take Scandinavia back again, I'll be happy with whatever the GM decides.

If Y decides they'd prefer to move on from Scandinavia, I'd give it a crack. It's probably the only region I am experienced in enough to not fail when it comes to Major/Regional powers in Europe. If not I'll probably take up the cause of a regional power in Afro-Asia.

Though, I think a country like Greece or possibly an ethnic nation depending on how the revolutions of 1848 went.

[Dereich]

I think while I would ultimately prefer to take Scandinavia back again, I'll be happy with whatever the GM decides.

If Y decides they'd prefer to move on from Scandinavia, I'd give it a crack. It's probably the only region I am experienced in enough to not fail when it comes to Major/Regional powers in Europe. If not I'll probably take up the cause of a regional power in Afro-Asia.

Though, I think a country like Greece or possibly an ethnic nation depending on how the revolutions of 1848 went.

Considering that in this world the revolutionary wave of the 1830s was that of the hyper-populist and proto-socialist Catholic Republicanism I'm curious as to whether there is any liberal revolutionary tendency in the world at all.

[GoTfan]

I think while I would ultimately prefer to take Scandinavia back again, I'll be happy with whatever the GM decides.

If Y decides they'd prefer to move on from Scandinavia, I'd give it a crack. It's probably the only region I am experienced in enough to not fail when it comes to Major/Regional powers in Europe. If not I'll probably take up the cause of a regional power in Afro-Asia.

Though, I think a country like Greece or possibly an ethnic nation depending on how the revolutions of 1848 went.

Considering that in this world the revolutionary wave of the 1830s was that of the hyper-populist and proto-socialist Catholic Republicanism I'm curious as to whether there is any liberal revolutionary tendency in the world at all.

I think there'd be a stronger tendency towards constitutional monarchies in this world.

[windjammer]

I would love to play France. Charlotte and Xavier are intriguing me!

I’m in as well although I actually sent a PM to Spamage reserving France  I thought it might be fun to mix up the usual dynamics since a lot of us have tended to keep picking the same country in past games (ex: Me - whatever backwater happens to be the center of revolutionary chaos, You - France, Lumine - Prussia, Dereich - Hapsburgs, etc).  

With all due respect i wish to continue playing France. I have built this country for the last three seasons and I wish to continue it in the next season !

Yeah, but then no one else gets to take a stab at it.  We’ve settled into a routine and familiar patterns and I think things will be more fun if we mix things up a bit.  I’ve always wanted to take a stab at France, I’ve always wondered what a Scandanavia Windjammer or a Catholic Republican Dereich or a British Lumine might look like.  Don’t you want to see if you can build up another country the way you did France?  

I will be frank.

You're absolutely correct that mixing up things and players taking over a new country can be a good thing for this game. After all you have done admirably well for the game (you have contributed a LOT) in your two last seasons, with Piedmont and Brazil and thank you for your contribution and really.

However, there is an another aspect: this game is a well development game. I have spent hours and hours looking for informations for France to build this country because I actually want to play it into different periods to see where my actions can lead on many centuries.

Frankly to answer your question I am absolutely uninterested in playing an another country and I will not and would instead follow the game from the outside if I don't get France as I would respect spamage's decision obviously.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

For the reference of anyone not familiar with this series:

This is the world at the ending of the last game in around 1840.

Great work from all of you.
I hope this next game is just as glorious.

[KaiserDave]

Looks great. Excited to play.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

As someone who use to play and mod forum-based nation simulators when I was younger, I'm super interested in taking part when this get's back up and running! 

[Spamage]

So after consideration, I will in fact allow people to reassume their old nations, should they wish. I'm not going to stop anyone from taking on a new realm if they choose to do so, but neither will I force people to play something against their inclination.

I'm happy to report my summary of events is coming along quite nicely. Expect the sign up and rules thread up by Friday at the latest. It will contain several summaries of developments in between the end of the last game and the start of this one (looks like it will be 1871). For an example of what it may look like, see the second post on the last game's sign up thread (here). Major areas of focus thus far are developments in: China, South America Broadly, European Diplomacy, Spain, France, and Russia.

Initial prompts during Turn 1 will detail more for specific nations. I will also be available to answer specific inquiries on the state of the world at that point in time. I will also provide a summary of the royal families, per usual (thank goodness I kept my GEDCOM file from the last game, much needed to keep track of all that).

Excited about the interest and can't wait to see where this goes!

[windjammer]

Thank you Spamage.

And again I absolutely recognize and praise X constant record of having made this game more original and interesting with all the revolutions he caused!

Charlotte or Xavier? That will be the main question for the stability of the whole continent.

[PSOL]

Outside of the nations, states, and other polities chosen by players. There’s like 14 or so other defined nations scattered across the world defined as significant NPCs. Half that number are states with strategic insight and some sort of advantage (size, irl resources, sea access) and diversity that it would be fun to play as. New players, if they pull their cards right, can have a lot of fun with them and we are not really in a position where things will stay stagnant.

Now what I would like to see with now even Brazil and Prussia colonizing Africa for some events there to be more common and definitely provide more dynamism to the game.

[FT-02 Senator A.F.E. 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Oooh! Sounds fun!

Are there minor countries that a new player could take a look at? Don’t want to commit to a major power and struggle.

This.

[PSOL]

Oooh! Sounds fun!

Are there minor countries that a new player could take a look at? Don’t want to commit to a major power and struggle.

This.

On the map, there is:

Old Dutch colonial holdings
Durranis
Ethiopia
Algeria
Morocco
Switzerland
Mexico
Rio de las platas
South Argentina
Tuscany
Thailand
Vietnam
Tibet
Turkestan

[Continential]

I have to do some projects so I might be gone for a few days after the Fantasyland election is over. If I am gone during the signing up process, I'd like to take the remnants of the Kingdom of the Netherlands or perhaps South Argentina if a player finds playing as Netherlands to be intriguing.

[Dereich]

For any Vicky II fans, I made a thing.

[Spamage]

For any Vicky II fans, I made a thing.

Really impressive! I was actually thinking about how exciting it will be to bring the scenario to Victoria III just the other day.

Did you run any observer runs to see what happens?

[Dereich]

For any Vicky II fans, I made a thing.

Really impressive! I was actually thinking about how exciting it will be to bring the scenario to Victoria III just the other day.

Did you run any observer runs to see what happens?

I'm nowhere near done; the borders outside Europe need a whole bunch of work so I haven't sat back and let it run out yet. I CAN say that in the game where that screenshot was taken Prussia declared war on Austria before the end of the first month. So situation normal.

[Dereich]

Oooh! Sounds fun!

Are there minor countries that a new player could take a look at? Don’t want to commit to a major power and struggle.

This.

On the map, there is:

Old Dutch colonial holdings
Durranis
Ethiopia
Algeria
Morocco
Switzerland
Mexico
Rio de las platas
South Argentina
Tuscany
Thailand
Vietnam
Tibet
Turkestan

Columbia and New England would be in this category too. Spain and Poland, while by no means "minor" are also non-great powers that would have interesting possibilities.

[windjammer]

For any Vicky II fans, I made a thing.

Really impressive! I was actually thinking about how exciting it will be to bring the scenario to Victoria III just the other day.

Did you run any observer runs to see what happens?

I'm nowhere near done; the borders outside Europe need a whole bunch of work so I haven't sat back and let it run out yet. I CAN say that in the game where that screenshot was taken Prussia declared war on Austria before the end of the first month. So situation normal.

I'm genuinely curious. Could you play some very minor countries and let the game go for some years to see how the map would look after some years please?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Oooh! Sounds fun!

Are there minor countries that a new player could take a look at? Don’t want to commit to a major power and struggle.

This.

On the map, there is:

Old Dutch colonial holdings
Durranis
Ethiopia
Algeria
Morocco
Switzerland
Mexico
Rio de las platas
South Argentina
Tuscany
Thailand
Vietnam
Tibet
Turkestan

Columbia and New England would be in this category too. Spain and Poland, while by no means "minor" are also non-great powers that would have interesting possibilities.

Don’t forget Catholic-Republican Portugal!

[windjammer]

Oooh! Sounds fun!

Are there minor countries that a new player could take a look at? Don’t want to commit to a major power and struggle.

This.

On the map, there is:

Old Dutch colonial holdings
Durranis
Ethiopia
Algeria
Morocco
Switzerland
Mexico
Rio de las platas
South Argentina
Tuscany
Thailand
Vietnam
Tibet
Turkestan

Columbia and New England would be in this category too. Spain and Poland, while by no means "minor" are also non-great powers that would have interesting possibilities.

Don’t forget Catholic-Republican Portugal!

Catholic republican royalty!

[windjammer]

Here is my theory:
The 1860 decade will be the charlotte's rule. She will definitely push for pro prussians and pro quebec policies. However the king's constant health scares will prevent her from starting a full scale war.

1871 will be the death of the king. Either she "managed" to have a son and she will rule as regent and her control of France will get stronger. Xavier (or his son) waiting in the shadows that she screws up and taking the regency as the closest dynast of the king (the concept of queen regent has been fairly established but when there is no queen this is the closest dynast see the regency for louis xv).

Or she failed to have a son and Xavier inherits the throne with literally surrounded by pro prussians people around him.

I guess I will be wrong haha

[Orwell]

I think I'll go with the Dutch colonial holdings... Definitely not my fault they're here

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Oooh! Sounds fun!

Are there minor countries that a new player could take a look at? Don’t want to commit to a major power and struggle.

This.

On the map, there is:

Old Dutch colonial holdings
Durranis
Ethiopia
Algeria
Morocco
Switzerland
Mexico
Rio de las platas
South Argentina
Tuscany
Thailand
Vietnam
Tibet
Turkestan

Columbia and New England would be in this category too. Spain and Poland, while by no means "minor" are also non-great powers that would have interesting possibilities.

Don’t forget Catholic-Republican Portugal!

Catholic republican royalty!

RIP St. Antonio who drove Satan from Lisbon!

[OBD]

Kind of confused but gonna formally request New England.