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« on: June 22, 2004, 10:40:14 PM »
« edited: June 22, 2004, 11:06:52 PM by The Vorlon »

http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/TN040622president.pdf

Robo-Rasmussen has Bush +8
Zogby's Internet Adventure +19% (... ok ....maybe a "tad" high...)
POS also Bush +10
Previous SUSA +11

Bush looks solid in Tennessee


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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2004, 10:45:30 PM »

Definitely solid Bush country. 10 seems about right.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2004, 10:46:14 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/TN040622president.pdf

Robo-Rasmussen has Bush +8
Zogby Internet Adventure +19% (... ok ....maybe a "tad" high...)
POS also Bush +10
Previous SUSA +11

Bush looks solid in Tennessee


Zogby Internet Adventure . . classic.

I think we can safely classify TN as a reliable Bush state now.
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2004, 10:57:40 PM »

Who wasn't already classifying Tennessee as Solid Bush??
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2004, 10:58:43 PM »

Who wasn't already classifying Tennessee as Solid Bush??

Lamrock lol
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2004, 10:59:20 PM »

http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/TN040622president.pdf

Robo-Rasmussen has Bush +8
Zogby Internet Adventure +19% (... ok ....maybe a "tad" high...)
POS also Bush +10
Previous SUSA +11

Bush looks solid in Tennessee





Thanks for the info Smiley You know what we need now Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2004, 11:04:11 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2004, 11:06:35 PM by The Vorlon »

http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/TN040622president.pdf

Robo-Rasmussen has Bush +8
Zogby Internet Adventure +19% (... ok ....maybe a "tad" high...)
POS also Bush +10
Previous SUSA +11

Bush looks solid in Tennessee


Thanks for the info Smiley You know what we need now Smiley

Graphic withheld till I could look it over...



Sample just a bit light on Republicans, (no big deal though) and a little bit too young, but otherwise ok.
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2004, 11:07:34 PM »

I disagree with your prediction map on the right.
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2004, 11:17:53 PM »

Now that Clinton/Gore is no longer a factor, the natural political leanings of the state are going to emerge. More moderate than many of the states that border it, but solid Bush nevertheless.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2004, 11:19:36 PM »

I think Kerry will win Tennessee.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2004, 11:24:54 PM »



Ok.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2004, 11:26:23 PM »

I disagree with your prediction map on the right.

There are a few voter groups that have not "settled down yet"

The election is very fluid.

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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2004, 11:28:54 PM »

I predict all those light reds on your left map to go Bush. A landslide is not unrealistic.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2004, 11:33:51 PM »

Who wasn't already classifying Tennessee as Solid Bush??

Bandit.  Well, BRTD can't mock us for prematurly calling states as tose-ups.  I can recall the Tennessee was supposedly a toss-up just to most Dems just months ago.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2004, 11:38:54 PM »

I predict all those light reds on your left map to go Bush. A landslide is not unrealistic.

There are three groups where bush is running behind his 2000 results:

1) Married white women
2) Working class younger males
3) College Educated single men

If the economy keeps going he gets back 2 & 3 pretty easily, if Iraq settles down he gets #1 back.
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2004, 06:40:04 AM »

It's interesting that Bush seems to have gained in one part of the Upper South (TN) but lost a lot of ground on 'tother side of the Smokies.
Weird eh?

(My guess is that Bush wins TN by about 5%)
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2004, 08:01:45 AM »

The only reason Tennessee was considered possibly a Democratic state in the past was because of Al Gore, but even that was overly hyped, the guy couldn't win the district he once represented!
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2004, 08:50:30 AM »

The only reason Tennessee was considered possibly a Democratic state in the past was because of Al Gore, but even that was overly hyped, the guy couldn't win the district he once represented!

Akno21 - Per your signature. Ron Brown? Vince Foster?
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2004, 10:46:32 AM »

I predict all those light reds on your left map to go Bush. A landslide is not unrealistic.
If the economy keeps going he gets back 2 & 3 pretty easily, if Iraq settles down he gets #1 back.

If the economy's so strong, how come the stock market hasn't moved an inch in six months?  I'm curious to hear some opinions on the market as I've been debating over this index fund for a while.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2004, 11:16:21 AM »

Monty, I'm into the stock market quite a bit. The market is something that is hard to understand and difficult to predict many times. The market does not always do what the economy is doing. I have long said that in the final year of the Clinton 2nd term, the stock market took a horrible slump, as it was seeing the economic slowdown coming and the big bubble there was in the tech stocks. I knew whoever was President next was going to take the blame for a slowdown which started in the market in the end of the Clinton term.  The market is still quite a bit above its lows of a little more than a year ago and the last few weeks haven't been that bad, so after everything the market has done the past several years, I'm happy with the slight gains made lately.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2004, 11:21:30 AM »
« Edited: June 23, 2004, 11:22:49 AM by The Vorlon »

I predict all those light reds on your left map to go Bush. A landslide is not unrealistic.

If the economy keeps going he gets back 2 & 3 pretty easily, if Iraq settles down he gets #1 back.

If the economy's so strong, how come the stock market hasn't moved an inch in six months?  I'm curious to hear some opinions on the market as I've been debating over this index fund for a while.

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The stock market had a huge run last year - Nasdaq up 40%

The markets always prices things in, in advance.

After the first run up in a market, it always is a stockpickers market after that.

I think over the next few years or so (at least) we are headed into a phase where Energy stocks will show a huge move.

India and China are both starting toreally gulp down the oil as their economies go though the "big energy" phase - heavy industry like steel, cars, etc plus just building infrastructure (roads, power plants etc) these will structurally drive demand up for energy just while most conventional oil production has peaked.

Currently, there is, essentially, no excess global energy capacity.

Suadi Arabia may have about a million barrels a day, Russia in the next few years can bring on another 800,000 or so, and Alberta from their tar sands has another 600,000 or so coming online, but that, at best, means things don't get any worse.

Energy stocks have very low P/E rations, and the short to medium term is excellent.

Buy the "junior oils" that do exploration and development - you'll do just fine for the next 10 years Smiley

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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2004, 11:27:57 AM »

The only reason Tennessee was considered possibly a Democratic state in the past was because of Al Gore, but even that was overly hyped, the guy couldn't win the district he once represented!

Actually his old district was abolished in the '92 redistricting (TN got an extra seat).
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