should Blinken recuse himself from the ukraine thing?
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« on: January 25, 2022, 11:31:31 PM »

he clearly has a conflict of interest. His great grandfather was born in Ukraine in 1879. It's no coincidence that the small percentage of americans with eastern european ancestry are the ones most obsessed with that part of the world.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2022, 08:05:19 AM »

What?
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2022, 08:10:21 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2022, 09:58:29 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2022, 10:13:50 AM »

Are you an idiot (nothing personal)?
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2022, 01:46:11 PM »

By the same token, should Joe “I don’t talk to the BBC, I’m Irish” Biden recuse himself from all manners relating to the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland? Of course not.

In a select-styled ‘nation of immigrants’, that’s kind of strategy is going to make diplomacy immensely complex, and at least slightly prejudiced.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2022, 04:53:41 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2022, 05:26:23 PM »

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how connected Jewish immigrants from Europe feel towards the country their ancestors came from.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2022, 05:58:03 PM »

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how connected Jewish immigrants from Europe feel towards the country their ancestors came from.

you don't think there's grudges that maybe are the reason behind a lot of the color revolutions going on there?
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2022, 06:07:46 PM »

“Jews Orchestrated Color Revolutions” , I got BINGO!
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2022, 06:42:26 PM »

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how connected Jewish immigrants from Europe feel towards the country their ancestors came from.

you don't think there's grudges that maybe are the reason behind a lot of the color revolutions going on there?

Okay, you don't need to answer my question

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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2022, 07:31:36 PM »

m'kay.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2022, 07:48:58 PM »

“Jews Orchestrated Color Revolutions” , I got BINGO!

Where's the free space?
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2022, 01:49:55 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2022, 02:59:52 AM »

There is a timeline where this thread and a suborbia thread merge to become “should Blinken become the Duke of D.C. if the US becomes a monarchy?”
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2022, 08:31:04 AM »

One person has (finally) recommended the OP - guess who it is Wink
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2022, 09:45:01 AM »

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how connected Jewish immigrants from Europe feel towards the country their ancestors came from.
you don't think there's grudges that maybe are the reason behind a lot of the color revolutions going on there?
Huh

As a descendant of people from Ukraine (among quite a few other countries) - please do explain.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2022, 11:25:15 AM »

wait this is unironic?
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2022, 06:20:14 PM »

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how connected Jewish immigrants from Europe feel towards the country their ancestors came from.
you don't think there's grudges that maybe are the reason behind a lot of the color revolutions going on there?
Huh
As a descendant of people from Ukraine (among quite a few other countries) - please do explain.

Long before the russian revolution there was a lot of conflict in eastern europe with things like serfdom, pogroms, cossacks and various other things. Although a lot of them eventually ended up in Israel, the united states or in western europe, I'd guess that the majority of jews worldwide lived in eastern europe circa 1860 and there was a lot of conflict between the jewish and orthodox populations in general. It was around this time (late 19th, early 20th century) that a lot of them came over to the united states.

Understandably, there are grudges toward eastern Europe after what happened 120ish years ago and more recently the expulsion of the oligarchs from Russia around twenty years ago. Putin (as well as Orban and the polish government) seem to be a resurrection of the pre-1917 governments in those countries and a threat to the kind of neoliberal/NGO/megacorp technocracy that they are increasingly trying to implement in the united states. So as a result you see a lot of color revolutions going on in that part of the world like Ukraine and Belarus. I also suspect that there have been talks (but never acted on) of doing color revolutions in Hungary and Russia also.
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2022, 06:33:00 PM »

“Recuse himself”?
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2022, 06:46:23 PM »

Good?
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2022, 08:32:57 PM »

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how connected Jewish immigrants from Europe feel towards the country their ancestors came from.
you don't think there's grudges that maybe are the reason behind a lot of the color revolutions going on there?
Huh
As a descendant of people from Ukraine (among quite a few other countries) - please do explain.

Long before the russian revolution there was a lot of conflict in eastern europe with things like serfdom, pogroms, cossacks and various other things. Although a lot of them eventually ended up in Israel, the united states or in western europe, I'd guess that the majority of jews worldwide lived in eastern europe circa 1860 and there was a lot of conflict between the jewish and orthodox populations in general. It was around this time (late 19th, early 20th century) that a lot of them came over to the united states.

Understandably, there are grudges toward eastern Europe after what happened 120ish years ago and more recently the expulsion of the oligarchs from Russia around twenty years ago. Putin (as well as Orban and the polish government) seem to be a resurrection of the pre-1917 governments in those countries and a threat to the kind of neoliberal/NGO/megacorp technocracy that they are increasingly trying to implement in the united states. So as a result you see a lot of color revolutions going on in that part of the world like Ukraine and Belarus. I also suspect that there have been talks (but never acted on) of doing color revolutions in Hungary and Russia also.

Oh, you're one of those people who think protests can't spontaneously materialise in corrupt regimes, unless they have the backing of neoliberal US and it's globalist Jewish backers. Got it.
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2022, 10:38:50 PM »

I don't care where his great-grandfather was born. He should recuse himself from being Secretary of State because his foreign policy sucks.
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2022, 01:18:24 AM »

You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how connected Jewish immigrants from Europe feel towards the country their ancestors came from.
you don't think there's grudges that maybe are the reason behind a lot of the color revolutions going on there?
Huh
As a descendant of people from Ukraine (among quite a few other countries) - please do explain.

Long before the russian revolution there was a lot of conflict in eastern europe with things like serfdom, pogroms, cossacks and various other things. Although a lot of them eventually ended up in Israel, the united states or in western europe, I'd guess that the majority of jews worldwide lived in eastern europe circa 1860 and there was a lot of conflict between the jewish and orthodox populations in general. It was around this time (late 19th, early 20th century) that a lot of them came over to the united states.

Understandably, there are grudges toward eastern Europe after what happened 120ish years ago and more recently the expulsion of the oligarchs from Russia around twenty years ago. Putin (as well as Orban and the polish government) seem to be a resurrection of the pre-1917 governments in those countries and a threat to the kind of neoliberal/NGO/megacorp technocracy that they are increasingly trying to implement in the united states. So as a result you see a lot of color revolutions going on in that part of the world like Ukraine and Belarus. I also suspect that there have been talks (but never acted on) of doing color revolutions in Hungary and Russia also.

You'd guess that a majority of world Jewry in 1860 lived in Eastern Europe? You're aware that this is something that can be looked up, right? And that you would have looked up before making a thread like this, if you actually cared about Jewish history as anything other than a backstory for your deranged, bigoted ideas about the present.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2022, 04:42:09 PM »

As someone whose great grandparents were born near Odessa in modern Ukraine, go f**k yourself, OP.
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