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« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2022, 07:21:51 PM »


How/why so? Genuinely want to use this to improve as a poster and every little bit helps.
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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2022, 11:42:38 PM »

No disrespect to CR or anyone who has posted on this thread, but this is quite entertaining to watch
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« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2022, 11:48:09 PM »

White noise
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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2022, 02:48:37 AM »


Why do you think this? 100% of what I said in the TX pride thread is true, though I'll admit DFW is seeing a resurgence.
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« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2022, 03:08:09 AM »

The fact that this thread has turned into yet another shouting match about the validity of gender non-conformity says a lot, I think.
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« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2022, 04:28:05 AM »

The fact that this thread has turned into yet another shouting match about the validity of gender non-conformity says a lot, I think.

Leip's Law: As long as an Atlas thread goes on, the longer the probability it will turn into a debate about transphobia, the 2020 primary, or the 2016 primary.
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« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2022, 11:51:29 AM »

The fact that this thread has turned into yet another shouting match about the validity of gender non-conformity says a lot, I think.

I mean, I'm not sure how that's any fault of mine, given that all I've said or done on the matter is actually apologize and clarify that saying trannies is most likely worse than being a trans person.
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« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2022, 12:39:05 PM »

The fact that this thread has turned into yet another shouting match about the validity of gender non-conformity says a lot, I think.

I mean, I'm not sure how that's any fault of mine, given that all I've said or done on the matter is actually apologize and clarify that saying trannies is most likely worse than being a trans person.
Yeah, CR and I aren't arguing. He apologized, I clarified something about the the the apology that needed to be said and accepted it. Dule came in to mock me for making that clarification, I said my piece to him because he specifically called me out, then I bowed out of the thread because I didn't want this one to turn into another argument when the ultimate point is that CR apologized. This is only a shouting match in the sense that some people think "OMG, any mention of trans stuff is a toxic debate."
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« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2022, 01:47:04 PM »

It's obvious that Hillary and the DNC stole the primary, if Bernie Sanders was the nominee we wouldn't be in this mess.
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« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2022, 02:06:18 PM »

Israel has a right to exist.

A woman has a right to an abortion. So do men and enbies.

Guns kill people.

Jan. 6 was a coup.

Rittenhouse is a murderer.

Latinx.

Russia didn't steal 2016.

Manchin will cave, or will he?

Cuomo is a rapist.

Neoliberalism is real.

Lockdowns are good.
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« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2022, 02:24:46 PM »

You serious about that? This isn't March 2020 anymore
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« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2022, 02:26:53 PM »

Constantly replying to your own opinion thread doesn't help your case.
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« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2022, 02:36:20 PM »


2 + 2 = 5

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« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2022, 02:40:03 PM »


2 + 2 = 5

War is Peace

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Don't forget Ignorance = Strength and Freedom = Slavery
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« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2022, 03:12:44 PM »

Voted FF only because he is a young teenager and I do expect him to gradually get better with time (assuming he lasts in the site for multiple years). Though maybe I am wrong

I also predict that at some point like so many other "young teenage conservatives" he will just drop the blue avatar and go red or possibly lime green.
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« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2022, 03:47:41 PM »

Voted FF only because he is a young teenager and I do expect him to gradually get better with time (assuming he lasts in the site for multiple years). Though maybe I am wrong

I also predict that at some point like so many other "young teenage conservatives" he will just drop the blue avatar and go red or possibly lime green.


You seem quite well-intentioned, but I do take fault with certain things you've said here:
1.) I don't know where everyone has gotten the noation that I am a young teenager.
2.) More pertinently, I wouldn't even have such a problem with the above assumption if people didn't use it as justification for 'oh, he'll grow/mature out of it': while this is certainly true in some cases (some of my views will obviously change as my view of the world further expands and I learn more), it doesn't mean that any and all views of mine that people do not appreciate/understand/like are on issues I don't understand yet, or that I'll 'mature' out of holding those positions and will switch to your viewpoint. Not saying you are malicious in intent in any way whatsoever, and I appreciate the FF vote, but I'm not going to 'mature' out of a blue avatar. Don't think I have it just for the yuks or because I don't fully understand how terrible the GOP is. A lot of people don't fully understand the blue avatar, and I will admit that for a bit I myself didn't see the rationale behind it either, but as I thought about it, I realized I knew why and articulated this reason in a post to WM some time back:

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@Centrist Republican - would you ever consider leaving the GOP becoming an Independent or a Democrat, for example?

Yes, I have done so multiple times. Aside from its history as the antislavery party, the real reason I am still affiliated with the Republican Party is complicated. To put it simply I am affiliated with the GOP precisely because I disagree with many of its talking points: I am proudly pro-mask, anti-Trump and anti-Big Lie, for gun control, and pro-environment. All of these are anethma to the current GOP and welcome in the Democratic Party. But if I were a Democrat, no one would notice the views I am most proud of (being pro-mask, anti-Trump, anti-sedition, anti-gun, pro-environment) since that is the case for the generic Democrat; they'd notice my views that aren't commonly associated with the Democrats, and which I don't hold as proudly or as fervently: my opposition to transgenders, my opposition to welfare, my opposition to affirmative action, my opposition to wokeness. That's not to say I am ashamed of any of these views, but these would be the views I would be known for - not for being pro-mask/anti-Trump/anti-sedition/anti-gun/pro-environment. But I have considered leaving the GOP numerous times at seeing it devolving into a glorified, mad Trumpish cult. I still remain in it for the purposes of my forum, but in practice, you could consider me a centrist Democrat if you'd prefer to. For instance, in an election featuring a generic Democrat and a generic Republican, I'd likely lean toward the Democrat, unless the GOP candidate was moderate or centrist like I am.

Whether or not you agree with and understand this post, I would hope you know that I have a blue avatar for a reason and it's unlikely this is something I'll just 'see the light on' and 'grow out of.' I'd like to close with addressing the 'conservative' label you gave me - I'm a centrist and am far from being remotely 'conservative.' Furthermore, if your implication is that conservatism as an ideology is a sign of immaturity and is something young teenagers grow out of, I'd say that's untrue since, though you and I might disagree with them, enough young teenagers have concrete reasons / convictions that make them conservative (though at the same time, I don't really blame you for thinking that after looking at people like Jonathan Krohn).
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« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2022, 03:49:49 PM »

Constantly replying to your own opinion thread doesn't help your case.

This thread has basically turned into a discussion about what's bad about my posting style / habits / me as a poster, so I feel it right to both address those points, and to (in the case of those who voted HP on the basis of some of my views, particularly those that were characterized as transphobic) clarify my views so that people can better understand them and not vote HP on the basis of a misunderstanding (not that I even care much about the poll - rather, that people understand my views and then vote however they think right).
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« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2022, 03:54:05 PM »

Israel has a right to exist.

A woman has a right to an abortion. So do men and enbies.

Guns kill people.

Jan. 6 was a coup.

Rittenhouse is a murderer.

Latinx.

Russia didn't steal 2016.

Manchin will cave, or will he?

Cuomo is a rapist.

Neoliberalism is real.

Lockdowns are good.

1. Yes, I agree, but I think it's given too much favouritism and politicians are sometimes blindly supportive of it, even when it commits atrocities, and constantly victimize it even when Palestine is the real victim.
2. Agree with the first sentence, but don't really understand the second.
3. Yes, of course.
4. Yes, of course.
5. Yes, of course - but the innocent verdict was the right one.
6. I don't like the sound of it very much, and think it's a tad too 'woke', but don't really care one way or another and Latinos/Hispanics can call themselves whatever they want and I wouldn't really have much of a problem with it / wouldn't disrespect that.
7. Yes, of course.
8. He won't. He has nothing much to lose and Democrats have nothing to gain by attacking him. Sinema, on the other hand...
9. Yes, of course.
10. I think so, but don't really understand it and thus don't consider my opinion on it particularly valid.
11. Yes, of course, though to be fair, even I've opened up a bit and it is actually time to relax them a bit for the vaccinated only.
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« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2022, 04:05:38 PM »


Klobmentum wasn't saying that - she was talking about CentristRepublican (she might believe lockdowns are good, who knows).
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« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2022, 04:09:35 PM »

Israel has a right to exist.

A woman has a right to an abortion. So do men and enbies.

Guns kill people.

Jan. 6 was a coup.

Rittenhouse is a murderer.

Latinx.

Russia didn't steal 2016.

Manchin will cave, or will he?

Cuomo is a rapist.

Neoliberalism is real.

Lockdowns are good.

1. Yes, I agree, but I think it's given too much favouritism and politicians are sometimes blindly supportive of it, even when it commits atrocities, and constantly victimize it even when Palestine is the real victim.
2. Agree with the first sentence, but don't really understand the second.
3. Yes, of course.
4. Yes, of course.
5. Yes, of course - but the innocent verdict was the right one.
6. I don't like the sound of it very much, and think it's a tad too 'woke', but don't really care one way or another and Latinos/Hispanics can call themselves whatever they want and I wouldn't really have much of a problem with it / wouldn't disrespect that.
7. Yes, of course.
8. He won't. He has nothing much to lose and Democrats have nothing to gain by attacking him. Sinema, on the other hand...
9. Yes, of course.
10. I think so, but don't really understand it and thus don't consider my opinion on it particularly valid.
11. Yes, of course, though to be fair, even I've opened up a bit and it is actually time to relax them a bit for the vaccinated only.
This isn't March 2020 anymore
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« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2022, 04:12:01 PM »

Israel has a right to exist.

A woman has a right to an abortion. So do men and enbies.

Guns kill people.

Jan. 6 was a coup.

Rittenhouse is a murderer.

Latinx.

Russia didn't steal 2016.

Manchin will cave, or will he?

Cuomo is a rapist.

Neoliberalism is real.

Lockdowns are good.

1. Yes, I agree, but I think it's given too much favouritism and politicians are sometimes blindly supportive of it, even when it commits atrocities, and constantly victimize it even when Palestine is the real victim.
2. Agree with the first sentence, but don't really understand the second.
3. Yes, of course.
4. Yes, of course.
5. Yes, of course - but the innocent verdict was the right one.
6. I don't like the sound of it very much, and think it's a tad too 'woke', but don't really care one way or another and Latinos/Hispanics can call themselves whatever they want and I wouldn't really have much of a problem with it / wouldn't disrespect that.
7. Yes, of course.
8. He won't. He has nothing much to lose and Democrats have nothing to gain by attacking him. Sinema, on the other hand...
9. Yes, of course.
10. I think so, but don't really understand it and thus don't consider my opinion on it particularly valid.
11. Yes, of course, though to be fair, even I've opened up a bit and it is actually time to relax them a bit for the vaccinated only.
This isn't March 2020 anymore

Fair enough, but the rest of that sentence moderates my stance. It really depends on what you define as lockdown, but the point is, I support lockdowns for the unvaccinated and certain restrictions on the vaccinated, though by and large lockdowns for the vaccinated are a thing of the past (and if you or anyone else considers what's currently happening for the vaccinated to be a lockdown, then yes, from that definition of lockdown, I do support lockdowns).
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« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2022, 04:20:31 PM »

Uhhh, I was only making a joke continuing along this line:

Leip's Law: As long as an Atlas thread goes on, the longer the probability it will turn into a debate about transphobia, the 2020 primary, or the 2016 primary.

Not actually trying to start a discussion on those issues.
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« Reply #72 on: January 23, 2022, 04:24:06 PM »

Constantly replying to your own opinion thread doesn't help your case.

This thread has basically turned into a discussion about what's bad about my posting style / habits / me as a poster, so I feel it right to both address those points, and to (in the case of those who voted HP on the basis of some of my views, particularly those that were characterized as transphobic) clarify my views so that people can better understand them and not vote HP on the basis of a misunderstanding (not that I even care much about the poll - rather, that people understand my views and then vote however they think right).

An unspoken rule of this forum is that you are generally not supposed to comment in an "Opinion of" thread about yourself (one or two comments to clarify things might be fine, but certainly not massive back and forth quote blocks with other people). This furthers the points made earlier in this thread that  (1) you don't understand decorum of what is an appropriate thing to post in a specific thread and (2) you are not interested in genuinely improving yourself as a poster as you want to clarify every single view you have instead of stepping back and listening to what others have to say as a way to improve your quality as a poster. The latter is probably a much more constructive thing to do, as what you're doing now is likely not changing many people's minds.
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« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2022, 04:28:46 PM »

Voted FF only because he is a young teenager and I do expect him to gradually get better with time (assuming he lasts in the site for multiple years). Though maybe I am wrong

I also predict that at some point like so many other "young teenage conservatives" he will just drop the blue avatar and go red or possibly lime green.


You seem quite well-intentioned, but I do take fault with certain things you've said here:
1.) I don't know where everyone has gotten the noation that I am a young teenager.
2.) More pertinently, I wouldn't even have such a problem with the above assumption if people didn't use it as justification for 'oh, he'll grow/mature out of it': while this is certainly true in some cases (some of my views will obviously change as my view of the world further expands and I learn more), it doesn't mean that any and all views of mine that people do not appreciate/understand/like are on issues I don't understand yet, or that I'll 'mature' out of holding those positions and will switch to your viewpoint. Not saying you are malicious in intent in any way whatsoever, and I appreciate the FF vote, but I'm not going to 'mature' out of a blue avatar. Don't think I have it just for the yuks or because I don't fully understand how terrible the GOP is. A lot of people don't fully understand the blue avatar, and I will admit that for a bit I myself didn't see the rationale behind it either, but as I thought about it, I realized I knew why and articulated this reason in a post to WM some time back:

And an unrelated question:

@Centrist Republican - would you ever consider leaving the GOP becoming an Independent or a Democrat, for example?

Yes, I have done so multiple times. Aside from its history as the antislavery party, the real reason I am still affiliated with the Republican Party is complicated. To put it simply I am affiliated with the GOP precisely because I disagree with many of its talking points: I am proudly pro-mask, anti-Trump and anti-Big Lie, for gun control, and pro-environment. All of these are anethma to the current GOP and welcome in the Democratic Party. But if I were a Democrat, no one would notice the views I am most proud of (being pro-mask, anti-Trump, anti-sedition, anti-gun, pro-environment) since that is the case for the generic Democrat; they'd notice my views that aren't commonly associated with the Democrats, and which I don't hold as proudly or as fervently: my opposition to transgenders, my opposition to welfare, my opposition to affirmative action, my opposition to wokeness. That's not to say I am ashamed of any of these views, but these would be the views I would be known for - not for being pro-mask/anti-Trump/anti-sedition/anti-gun/pro-environment. But I have considered leaving the GOP numerous times at seeing it devolving into a glorified, mad Trumpish cult. I still remain in it for the purposes of my forum, but in practice, you could consider me a centrist Democrat if you'd prefer to. For instance, in an election featuring a generic Democrat and a generic Republican, I'd likely lean toward the Democrat, unless the GOP candidate was moderate or centrist like I am.

Whether or not you agree with and understand this post, I would hope you know that I have a blue avatar for a reason and it's unlikely this is something I'll just 'see the light on' and 'grow out of.' I'd like to close with addressing the 'conservative' label you gave me - I'm a centrist and am far from being remotely 'conservative.' Furthermore, if your implication is that conservatism as an ideology is a sign of immaturity and is something young teenagers grow out of, I'd say that's untrue since, though you and I might disagree with them, enough young teenagers have concrete reasons / convictions that make them conservative (though at the same time, I don't really blame you for thinking that after looking at people like Jonathan Krohn).

Well if you are an adult then I apologize for interpreting you are a teenager. But yes your posting style does to me suggest someone who would be very young, possibly something like 15 years old? Not like young teenagers can't be good posters; and tbh it's a matter more of experience in the site/forum boards in general than purely age. Pretty sure Ishan is possibly one of our youngest posters but no one has any issues with him other than perhaps some Atlasia stuff. But after like 3 years in the site he is also more experienced.

Also I don't mean to imply that you will necessarily become a liberal or anything with age; but rather that more broadly you will learn to articulate your points better and what not.

But I have also seen and heard too many stories of young innocent sheltered teenagers that with age and more experience gradually shift left (most notably in my experience S019 but there are plenty of others)
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« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2022, 04:30:08 PM »

An unspoken rule of this forum is that you are generally not supposed to comment in an "Opinion of" thread about yourself

I always thought it was to not make said threads about yourself.
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