What primarily killed New Atheism?

[James Monroe]

I'll argued the New Atheism movement died out, what I think happened was the changing structure of American society that led to no need for discourse on the role religion plays in American society. Nevertheless, I think if anything the movement played a part in secularizing the American public.

1. Think about it. Religion is now just a relic of the past that is no longer the fabric of our nation. Majority of the public is now non-religious and that number will grew in the future. When you look at it, think of how controversial it was for Richard Dawkins to speak out against the indoctrination of children in the organized faith upbringings. As the internet proved, when you have factual information on your fingertips the future of religion was at stakes and the churches are now paying a price for not recognizing this eventual decline in service members.
2. The movement help promote secularism to the mainstream public. When the public saw the public speakers speaking out against religion they were seeing some of their favorite people in various fields. When they hear George Carlin rants against religion they were being a deconstruction of the fallacy that has been speak as truth since childhood. When they are seeing many public intellectuals from as diverse as Noam Chomsky to Neil Degrasse Tyson speaking out against religion they are seeing the brightest minds in our world not wrapping their minds with the religion woo-woo.
3. Secularism has won in the end game. Look at the progress from debating same sex marriage to now legalizing it all over the country in just a decade. Trans people are accepted more freely than it would have been imagined in a decade ago. We have more social liberalism now thanks to the New Atheists who were challenging the Christian Right that seek to overturn all the fabrics of our great nation the Founding Fathers created, who were rationalists men who were not the crazed religious fanatics that Pat Robinson wants you to think. The only thing that I think is being challenged is the rise of the anti-science movement is still larger than pro-science in America. Global warming is questioned by a majority of a political party, vaccines are being hesitated by people who read Infowars, conspiracies are embraced, evolution is not trusted by even a good number of teachers.

As of now, the New Atheist movement lead a dent in religion that will mean it's going to be closer to extinction in the next century.

[James Monroe]

Other: I've never heard the term "New Atheism" from anyone but BRTD, and atheism never died.

Don't you know, we're all irrelevant neckbeards and people are now hardcore  Christians who go moshing at church.

[James Monroe]

Other: I've never heard the term "New Atheism" from anyone but BRTD, and atheism never died.

You've never heard of Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris?

As well the greatest thinker of the movement, my man in the signature, Christopher Hitchens.

[James Monroe]

Other: I've never heard the term "New Atheism" from anyone but BRTD, and atheism never died.

You've never heard of Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris?

I know of them, but I've never consumed much of their writing or interviews. I wasn't aware that there needed to be a "new" way of saying "I don't believe in god."

It wasn't really about "I don't believe in God" so much as "I don't believe in God so I'm so much more intelligent and truly intellectually superior to all those stupid religious people, lol they're so dumb amirite?"

The prophets of the New Atheist movement were not accusing apologists as being just dimwits who blindly followed their faith, what they saw was a dangerous rhetoric that was threatening the world into oblivion. Remember, the writings came after 9/11 and Iraq War, the most chaotic events of the 21th century. This was the religious right at their height of power in politics, when they seek to impose Intelligent Design on the school boards, where same sex marriage was being banned amidst Massachusetts legalizing the process. Religion was becoming a force for evil in the world through the imposing violence and the anti-rationality against scientific factual information. All four of the horsemen saw the challenge to combat the Western pro-religion bias by writing on why religion did a disservice to humanity. That straw man you used is only limited to a outspoken anonymous atheist with no influence on the real world.

[James Monroe]

People began to realize that the secular right, when given power, could be just as dangerous as the rabidly Evangelical right, and that they often aligned with one another.

Except amongst self declared atheists, Trump only got 11%. This was the lowest share amongst any religious/non religious group other than black protestants.

I don't think it helps to mix up a few prominent online voices with the views of atheists. That's as disingenuous as saying church leaders 'represent' the laity.

No group despises Trump more than the secular community. It's been getting threats by all of his cabinet and judicial appointments who were Fundies who wanted to restore the Bush-Era policies of being guided by the church. In fact, you can't find a prominent actual conservative opening to admitting being an atheist because the Fox News jargon wants nothing more than to purge atheists off the face of the Earth. In the end the secular community has won the battles that were hot debates in the 2000s, and that is something organized faith should be suspicious of, as they decline into irrelevance in the later 21th century.

[James Monroe]

If 'dying off' resulted in declaring ones atheism to become twice as popular amongst GenZ than Millennials then I'll put flowers on it's grave.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1479859967695982592

I think this is probably because the perception of self-identified atheism among people younger than twenty-five or so is no longer dominated by people like Dawkins, Harris, etc. That and the fact that it's especially clear in very-young online spaces that "nothing in particular" says nothing about one's actual views and that plenty of people who describe themselves that way are at least as nonrational in their approach to fundamental questions as most religious people.

Yeah I'd say the majority of my friends are non religious but I've never met anyone my age who's actually vocal about their atheism (unless you go back to a couple particularly edgy people in middle school). It's more that they just don't really care much about religion.

New Atheism is islamophobic too.

Only if you think criticism of Islam is phobia. Given the state of Islam in many parts of the world it should be fair to criticize a religion which has become a source of repression for minorities and a leading cause of violence in the world.

[James Monroe]

If 'dying off' resulted in declaring ones atheism to become twice as popular amongst GenZ than Millennials then I'll put flowers on it's grave.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1479859967695982592

I think this is probably because the perception of self-identified atheism among people younger than twenty-five or so is no longer dominated by people like Dawkins, Harris, etc. That and the fact that it's especially clear in very-young online spaces that "nothing in particular" says nothing about one's actual views and that plenty of people who describe themselves that way are at least as nonrational in their approach to fundamental questions as most religious people.

Yeah I'd say the majority of my friends are non religious but I've never met anyone my age who's actually vocal about their atheism (unless you go back to a couple particularly edgy people in middle school). It's more that they just don't really care much about religion.

New Atheism is islamophobic too.

Only if you think criticism of Islam is phobia. Given the state of Islam in many parts of the world it should be fair to criticize a religion which has become a source of repression for minorities and a leading cause of violence in the world.

Definitely, but there’s a difference between being critical of Islam and being racist(Dawkins claimed “clock boy” was a terrorist). I don’t think Trump ever argued that Islam was in need of a some social modernization and the French far right talks about “white genocide” simply because more Muslims move to France.

Yes, criticism of Islam can lend into racist tendencies. I think the New Atheist writers for the most part were cautious about the racism while being just as critical of Islam as all religions. Daring to take on Islam when politically correct liberals just stand on their toes while leaders of the faith are preaching killing enemies in their name is a courageous act. Remember what the Iranian government did to Salem Rushdie you learned the dangers of theocratic governments.