Toobin says Supreme Court retirement "imminent"

[SteveRogers]

Maybe its Sotomayor.  She has become increasingly mentally unhinged thanks to Covid and now refuses to be in the same room as unmasked people, despite presumably being fully vaccinated.  Since she's too afraid to attend in person work-related meetings, seems possible she's going to retire soon realizing that Covid is never going away.

She literally has a chronic auto-immune disorder and at much higher risk for a serious covid infenction ffs

Gorsuch is literally putting her life in danger

He "literally" is not. Gorsuch (like every other justice) is fully vaccinated and boosted, and is currently asymptomatic. If Sotomayor is still worried about transmission, she always has the option of wearing an N95 mask — which, as we've discussed extensively over the last few weeks, protects the wearer even if other people are not wearing masks. The likelihood of transmission from a boosted, asymptomatic person to a boosted, N95-wearing person is basically nil. This is theater, nothing more.

If politely asking your coworkers to wear a mask while you’re all in a meeting together is “theater,” then what do you call being the one jerk in the office who refuses to wear one?

"Politely" is nowhere to be found in the tweet, thats your inference.  I'd just call the refusal simple common sense.  No need to cover up your face simply to satisfy someone elses neurosis when it has literally no clinical benefit.  Sonia Sotomayor is going to be around people "literally putting her life in danger" until she goes to the grave if this is the standard everyone is now held to.

Okay, but Gorsuch is one of Sotomayor's eight closest colleagues, not some random guy she runs into now and then. It's selfish and unkind to be the one person in a hypochondriac's life who refuses to help them feel more at-ease, even though it's not quasi-homicidal in the way that leecannon is saying it is. Gorsuch is the most intellectually serious of the current ultraconservative justices and one of maybe three or four current justices tops who engages in actual thought at all, but he's struck me as a royal pain in the ass on a personal level for a while now and my hearing this doesn't do much to change that impression.

If somebody close to me had this paranoia and fear, I wouldn't validate it or encourage it.  I certainly wouldn't cover my face just to satisfy them.  This would have been a no-brainer pre-Covid, and in fact it should be now but we have a traumatized population.  The correct answer is for her to seek help, not try and dictate what other people wear.

Nobody is asking Gorsuch to wear a mask all day. Just when they’re all clustered together in close proximity on the bench for oral arguments. It has nothing to do with encouraging or validating anyone. It’s just a basic professional courtesy that costs a person nothing.

I’m vaxed and boosted, and at my job our boss let’s us use our own discretion about wearing masks. But if I have to go into a conference room with a bunch of other people, and everyone else is masked up, I’m gonna put my dang mask on to err on the side of not making anybody uncomfortable because aside from being the recommended public health precaution, it’s a nice thing to do.

[Green Line]

Maybe its Sotomayor.  She has become increasingly mentally unhinged thanks to Covid and now refuses to be in the same room as unmasked people, despite presumably being fully vaccinated.  Since she's too afraid to attend in person work-related meetings, seems possible she's going to retire soon realizing that Covid is never going away.

She literally has a chronic auto-immune disorder and at much higher risk for a serious covid infenction ffs

Gorsuch is literally putting her life in danger

He "literally" is not. Gorsuch (like every other justice) is fully vaccinated and boosted, and is currently asymptomatic. If Sotomayor is still worried about transmission, she always has the option of wearing an N95 mask — which, as we've discussed extensively over the last few weeks, protects the wearer even if other people are not wearing masks. The likelihood of transmission from a boosted, asymptomatic person to a boosted, N95-wearing person is basically nil. This is theater, nothing more.

If politely asking your coworkers to wear a mask while you’re all in a meeting together is “theater,” then what do you call being the one jerk in the office who refuses to wear one?

"Politely" is nowhere to be found in the tweet, thats your inference.  I'd just call the refusal simple common sense.  No need to cover up your face simply to satisfy someone elses neurosis when it has literally no clinical benefit.  Sonia Sotomayor is going to be around people "literally putting her life in danger" until she goes to the grave if this is the standard everyone is now held to.

Okay, but Gorsuch is one of Sotomayor's eight closest colleagues, not some random guy she runs into now and then. It's selfish and unkind to be the one person in a hypochondriac's life who refuses to help them feel more at-ease, even though it's not quasi-homicidal in the way that leecannon is saying it is. Gorsuch is the most intellectually serious of the current ultraconservative justices and one of maybe three or four current justices tops who engages in actual thought at all, but he's struck me as a royal pain in the ass on a personal level for a while now and my hearing this doesn't do much to change that impression.

If somebody close to me had this paranoia and fear, I wouldn't validate it or encourage it.  I certainly wouldn't cover my face just to satisfy them.  This would have been a no-brainer pre-Covid, and in fact it should be now but we have a traumatized population.  The correct answer is for her to seek help, not try and dictate what other people wear.

Nobody is asking Gorsuch to wear a mask all day. Just when they’re all clustered together in close proximity on the bench for oral arguments. It has nothing to do with encouraging or validating anyone. It’s just a basic professional courtesy that costs a person nothing.

I’m vaxed and boosted, and at my job our boss let’s us use our own discretion about wearing masks. But if I have to go into a conference room with a bunch of other people, and everyone else is masked up, I’m gonna put my dang mask on to err on the side of not making anybody uncomfortable because aside from being the recommended public health precaution, it’s a nice thing to do.

Covering up your face simply to placate hypochondriacs is not in any way a professional courtesy.  Our society is so damaged, and I have no intention of contributing to the mass hysteria.

Of course, its all moot because I am not able to choose whether or not to cover my face and havent had that option since April 2020, save for 2 months last summer.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Kamala Harris would honestly be a terrific pick.  She's a very bright and qualified person who's on the right side of almost every issue, but seems to have horrible political instincts and no real electoral constituency.  She's a little only the old side, but just barely.  And this would allow Biden to nominate a new VP with actual appeal to Latinos.

Dems would immediately lose their senate majority.  It requires a majority of both chambers to select a new VP after the vacancy, and there would be no one to break the tie in the senate.  Republicans would have a say in who the new VP is and they could even hold the VP seat open until 2025 if they wanted to.

That’s a good point that didn’t immediately occur to me, and would indeed make picking Harris untenable.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why are we so worried about this, it hasn't happened and yet, MSNBC isn't talking about it, if it was imminent, they would be some sort of conversation on this, not saying this will happen but just like Voting Rights Biden and D's are at 43 percent in the polls and the narrative to change because they're headed for a defeat in the Midterms especially the H, but a good chance the Senate will be tied again

We need another source to confirm THIS, it's obviously Sonia Sotomayor, but having Diabetes in itself and catching Covid doesn't give you the DEATH SENTENCE, you have to have underlying medical problems like Heart Failure  and high blood pressure

Manchin said no again, on Voting Rights after Schumer said he would have a talking Filibuster

But, Garland has been sitting on Investigation into Trump for over a yr and still haven't acted on it, and Meadows has been found in contempt and he hasn't acted on Meadows

[emailking]

Mr. BS actually has a good point there, at least in the first 2 lines. I took Toobin's tweet to be speculation about whom Biden would nominate, since we generally expect Breyer will probably retire this year.

[Sir Mohamed]

Not buying this until there are more sources confirming the claim. Usually retirements happen at the end of SCOTUS terms.

I believe Breyer retiring later this year will be the only SCOTUS nomination Biden gets (confirmed) anyway. No matter whether he's serving 1 or 2 terms.

[Calthrina950]

Not buying this until there are more sources confirming the claim. Usually retirements happen at the end of SCOTUS terms.

I believe Breyer retiring later this year will be the only SCOTUS nomination Biden gets (confirmed) anyway. No matter whether he's serving 1 or 2 terms.

It would be something if Breyer decides to hold on. If he does not retire this year, and dies in office, Republicans will gain a 7-2 majority on the Court.

[Skill and Chance]

Not buying this until there are more sources confirming the claim. Usually retirements happen at the end of SCOTUS terms.

I believe Breyer retiring later this year will be the only SCOTUS nomination Biden gets (confirmed) anyway. No matter whether he's serving 1 or 2 terms.

Stevens announced his retirement in early April and Souter privately notified the Obama admin in early April before announcing in early May.  Kennedy was the only end-of-term surprise in recent times.

[Badger]

Maybe its Sotomayor.  She has become increasingly mentally unhinged thanks to Covid and now refuses to be in the same room as unmasked people, despite presumably being fully vaccinated.  Since she's too afraid to attend in person work-related meetings, seems possible she's going to retire soon realizing that Covid is never going away.

She literally has a chronic auto-immune disorder and at much higher risk for a serious covid infenction ffs

Gorsuch is literally putting her life in danger

He "literally" is not. Gorsuch (like every other justice) is fully vaccinated and boosted, and is currently asymptomatic. If Sotomayor is still worried about transmission, she always has the option of wearing an N95 mask — which, as we've discussed extensively over the last few weeks, protects the wearer even if other people are not wearing masks. The likelihood of transmission from a boosted, asymptomatic person to a boosted, N95-wearing person is basically nil. This is theater, nothing more.

If politely asking your coworkers to wear a mask while you’re all in a meeting together is “theater,” then what do you call being the one jerk in the office who refuses to wear one?

"Politely" is nowhere to be found in the tweet, thats your inference.  I'd just call the refusal simple common sense.  No need to cover up your face simply to satisfy someone elses neurosis when it has literally no clinical benefit.  Sonia Sotomayor is going to be around people "literally putting her life in danger" until she goes to the grave if this is the standard everyone is now held to.

Okay, but Gorsuch is one of Sotomayor's eight closest colleagues, not some random guy she runs into now and then. It's selfish and unkind to be the one person in a hypochondriac's life who refuses to help them feel more at-ease, even though it's not quasi-homicidal in the way that leecannon is saying it is. Gorsuch is the most intellectually serious of the current ultraconservative justices and one of maybe three or four current justices tops who engages in actual thought at all, but he's struck me as a royal pain in the ass on a personal level for a while now and my hearing this doesn't do much to change that impression.

If somebody close to me had this paranoia and fear, I wouldn't validate it or encourage it.  I certainly wouldn't cover my face just to satisfy them.  This would have been a no-brainer pre-Covid, and in fact it should be now but we have a traumatized population.  The correct answer is for her to seek help, not try and dictate what other people wear.

Nobody is asking Gorsuch to wear a mask all day. Just when they’re all clustered together in close proximity on the bench for oral arguments. It has nothing to do with encouraging or validating anyone. It’s just a basic professional courtesy that costs a person nothing.

I’m vaxed and boosted, and at my job our boss let’s us use our own discretion about wearing masks. But if I have to go into a conference room with a bunch of other people, and everyone else is masked up, I’m gonna put my dang mask on to err on the side of not making anybody uncomfortable because aside from being the recommended public health precaution, it’s a nice thing to do.

Covering up your face simply to placate hypochondriacs is not in any way a professional courtesy.  Our society is so damaged, and I have no intention of contributing to the mass hysteria.

Of course, its all moot because I am not able to choose whether or not to cover my face and havent had that option since April 2020, save for 2 months last summer.

"Hypochondriacs".

[Horus]

Maybe its Sotomayor.  She has become increasingly mentally unhinged thanks to Covid and now refuses to be in the same room as unmasked people, despite presumably being fully vaccinated.  Since she's too afraid to attend in person work-related meetings, seems possible she's going to retire soon realizing that Covid is never going away.

She literally has a chronic auto-immune disorder and at much higher risk for a serious covid infenction ffs

Gorsuch is literally putting her life in danger

He "literally" is not. Gorsuch (like every other justice) is fully vaccinated and boosted, and is currently asymptomatic. If Sotomayor is still worried about transmission, she always has the option of wearing an N95 mask — which, as we've discussed extensively over the last few weeks, protects the wearer even if other people are not wearing masks. The likelihood of transmission from a boosted, asymptomatic person to a boosted, N95-wearing person is basically nil. This is theater, nothing more.

If politely asking your coworkers to wear a mask while you’re all in a meeting together is “theater,” then what do you call being the one jerk in the office who refuses to wear one?

"Politely" is nowhere to be found in the tweet, thats your inference.  I'd just call the refusal simple common sense.  No need to cover up your face simply to satisfy someone elses neurosis when it has literally no clinical benefit.  Sonia Sotomayor is going to be around people "literally putting her life in danger" until she goes to the grave if this is the standard everyone is now held to.

Okay, but Gorsuch is one of Sotomayor's eight closest colleagues, not some random guy she runs into now and then. It's selfish and unkind to be the one person in a hypochondriac's life who refuses to help them feel more at-ease, even though it's not quasi-homicidal in the way that leecannon is saying it is. Gorsuch is the most intellectually serious of the current ultraconservative justices and one of maybe three or four current justices tops who engages in actual thought at all, but he's struck me as a royal pain in the ass on a personal level for a while now and my hearing this doesn't do much to change that impression.

If somebody close to me had this paranoia and fear, I wouldn't validate it or encourage it.  I certainly wouldn't cover my face just to satisfy them.  This would have been a no-brainer pre-Covid, and in fact it should be now but we have a traumatized population.  The correct answer is for her to seek help, not try and dictate what other people wear.

Nobody is asking Gorsuch to wear a mask all day. Just when they’re all clustered together in close proximity on the bench for oral arguments. It has nothing to do with encouraging or validating anyone. It’s just a basic professional courtesy that costs a person nothing.

I’m vaxed and boosted, and at my job our boss let’s us use our own discretion about wearing masks. But if I have to go into a conference room with a bunch of other people, and everyone else is masked up, I’m gonna put my dang mask on to err on the side of not making anybody uncomfortable because aside from being the recommended public health precaution, it’s a nice thing to do.

Covering up your face simply to placate hypochondriacs is not in any way a professional courtesy.  Our society is so damaged, and I have no intention of contributing to the mass hysteria.

Of course, its all moot because I am not able to choose whether or not to cover my face and havent had that option since April 2020, save for 2 months last summer.

"Hypochondriacs".

At this point, yes? What else would you call a fully vaccinated individual who is still terrified of this extremely mild variant?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Not buying this until there are more sources confirming the claim. Usually retirements happen at the end of SCOTUS terms.

I believe Breyer retiring later this year will be the only SCOTUS nomination Biden gets (confirmed) anyway. No matter whether he's serving 1 or 2 terms.

It would be something if Breyer decides to hold on. If he does not retire this year, and dies in office, Republicans will gain a 7-2 majority on the Court.

He's not dying John Paul Stevens lived to 97 and Sandra Day OConnor is 87 if he was dying he would retire people think that just because you are elderly you are dying he is 82 the same age Biden and Trump are


Ginsburg had colon CANCER


Biden and Trump are like 79 and Breyer is 82 and you think he is dying and Trump and Biden aren't, they all jog every day like Obama

[SteveRogers]

Nobody is asking Gorsuch to wear a mask all day. Just when they’re all clustered together in close proximity on the bench for oral arguments. It has nothing to do with encouraging or validating anyone. It’s just a basic professional courtesy that costs a person nothing.

I’m vaxed and boosted, and at my job our boss let’s us use our own discretion about wearing masks. But if I have to go into a conference room with a bunch of other people, and everyone else is masked up, I’m gonna put my dang mask on to err on the side of not making anybody uncomfortable because aside from being the recommended public health precaution, it’s a nice thing to do.

Covering up your face simply to placate hypochondriacs is not in any way a professional courtesy.  Our society is so damaged, and I have no intention of contributing to the mass hysteria.

Of course, its all moot because I am not able to choose whether or not to cover my face and havent had that option since April 2020, save for 2 months last summer.

"Hypochondriacs".

At this point, yes? What else would you call a fully vaccinated individual who is still terrified of this extremely mild variant?

I would call them a “person who is highly annoyed that half the country refused to get vaccinated, thus allowing wave after wave of vaccine-resistant variants to propagate.”

[Horus]

Nobody is asking Gorsuch to wear a mask all day. Just when they’re all clustered together in close proximity on the bench for oral arguments. It has nothing to do with encouraging or validating anyone. It’s just a basic professional courtesy that costs a person nothing.

I’m vaxed and boosted, and at my job our boss let’s us use our own discretion about wearing masks. But if I have to go into a conference room with a bunch of other people, and everyone else is masked up, I’m gonna put my dang mask on to err on the side of not making anybody uncomfortable because aside from being the recommended public health precaution, it’s a nice thing to do.

Covering up your face simply to placate hypochondriacs is not in any way a professional courtesy.  Our society is so damaged, and I have no intention of contributing to the mass hysteria.

Of course, its all moot because I am not able to choose whether or not to cover my face and havent had that option since April 2020, save for 2 months last summer.

"Hypochondriacs".

At this point, yes? What else would you call a fully vaccinated individual who is still terrified of this extremely mild variant?

I would call them a “person who is highly annoyed that half the country refused to get vaccinated, thus allowing wave after wave of vaccine-resistant variants to propagate.”

1. Far more than half the country is vaccinated.

2. Everyone on the supreme court is vaccinated.

3. Masks do not prevent the contraction or spread of the recent variant.

4. Vaccines are incredibly effective at preventing serious illness and death from omicron, making it literally a cold for the vaccinated.

[emailking]

3. Masks do not prevent the contraction or spread of the recent variant.

It makes it less likely.

[Horus]

3. Masks do not prevent the contraction or spread of the recent variant.

It makes it less likely.

Perhaps they postpone the inevitable by a week or two.

[emailking]

3. Masks do not prevent the contraction or spread of the recent variant.

It makes it less likely.

Perhaps they postpone the inevitable by a week or two.

I think it's been more than 2 weeks since you first said this and I still have not gotten sick. :shrug:

I did wear a mask in the grocery store last week.

[Donerail]

Gorsuch is literally putting her life in danger

He "literally" is not. Gorsuch (like every other justice) is fully vaccinated and boosted, and is currently asymptomatic. If Sotomayor is still worried about transmission, she always has the option of wearing an N95 mask — which, as we've discussed extensively over the last few weeks, protects the wearer even if other people are not wearing masks. The likelihood of transmission from a boosted, asymptomatic person to a boosted, N95-wearing person is basically nil. This is theater, nothing more.

If politely asking your coworkers to wear a mask while you’re all in a meeting together is “theater,” then what do you call being the one jerk in the office who refuses to wear one?

I understand that people should be accommodating of their coworkers, but at some point you have to draw a line. Gorsuch is not just fully vaccinated and boosted — he, like every other justice (and everyone else in the room), is also tested every morning before argument. It strikes me as more than a little unreasonable, even with a medical condition, to demand a triple-vaxxed person who tested negative an hour ago to still wear a mask.

At any rate, it seems more than a little odd to single out Gorsuch here — Thomas and Alito both removed their masks as soon as they were seated, and Kavanaugh, Roberts and Barrett (as well as the attorneys) removed their masks whenever they were speaking. (Which, for a disease spread mostly by the kind of droplets you expel when speaking, is...) Making a point about Gorsuch not wearing it when they're walking up to the bench, but not making the same point about the other justices removing their masks when they're actually seated together and asking questions during argument, is theater — it's wholly disconnected from the actual risks of spread.

Anyway, turns out this story is bs
https://twitter.com/adamliptak/status/1483840306474885131

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Sotomayor isn't retiring, Breyer is, if there is one, why would she retire and she can go virtual and Covid isnt a death sentence with Diabetes I know what it's like to be Diabetic

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What do you know...

[LordLarry]

Looks like that prediction came in handy.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Sotomayor isn't retiring, Breyer is, if there is one, why would she retire and she can go virtual and Covid isnt a death sentence with Diabetes I know what it's like to be Diabetic

Never wrong as usual, king