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« on: January 17, 2022, 04:04:37 PM »

Anyone who cites Jung as a major influence (or just all but plagiarizes him, as in in Peterson's case) is an HP to me.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2022, 04:49:54 PM »

I don't know about his views on psychology, but his historical (and political) perspectives are garbage.

Isn't he pretty much just a standard Canadian left-liberal who is critical of certain elements of contemporary "woke" ideology like with the trans stuff like Joe Rogan. All these college students calling him alt right or even a nazi because he disagrees with them on like two or three things strikes me as pretty hysterical.

Regardless I'm not a fan because he comes off like a pseudointellectual sophist most times I've seen him.

"Standard Canadian left-liberals" tend not to be friends with Maxime Bernier.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2022, 02:04:37 PM »

His shtick is boilerplate self-help advice which any semi-competent psychologist could give you, peppered in with bizarre Jungian symbology and barely-plausibly-deniable reactionary dogwhistles. If what you're saying is that the self-help stuff shouldn't be dismissed, okay, sure, I agree keeping your room in order is good, but I don't think I needed him telling me that.

I have not engaged much with his self-help material. However, I have enjoyed watching some of his online lectures about fascism and collective movements, as well as his unapologetic opposition to coerced speech. The latter is indeed something many people today still need to hear, and until certain left-wing movements demonstrate an understanding of the arguments that people like Peterson make, they (rather than he) will remain the bigger problem.

Oh yeah, I really needed Jordan Peterson to realize compelled speech was bad.

Except by "compelled speech" he means some milquetoast anti-discrimination law passed by Canada that hasn't actually compelled anyone to say anything but that reactionaries decided to whip up a panic around. Yup, invaluable contribution to public discourse.

The law in question could be used to imprison people who consistently refuse to use someone's chosen pronouns-- so yes, apparently we do need Peterson around to tell people like you that such things are bad, as you've just demonstrated.

This law has been in effect for what, over half a decade now? If it "could be used" for something as far-fetched, that would have happened at least once. The fact that it hasn't suggests to me that JP and yourself are just seeing ghosts.

This is like saying the Patriot Act would be ok so long as it was only used against terrorists. The law is on the books and is waiting to be abused. Not to sound too much like my current namesake, but it's the thin end of the wedge.

Comparing that bill to the f-cking PATRIOT Act is exactly the sort of dumb right-wing hysteria that Peterson is so infamous for stoking. Before asking yourself why people care so much about being misgendered, you should ask yourself why you think it's so important that you should be able to do it with impunity. It's not a heroic statement for free speech (which for right-wingers never includes people they disagree with); it's just being an asshole.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2022, 02:40:27 PM »

Comparing that bill to the f-cking PATRIOT Act is exactly the sort of dumb right-wing hysteria that Peterson is so infamous for stoking. Before asking yourself why people care so much about being misgendered, you should ask yourself why you think it's so important that you should be able to do it with impunity. It's not a heroic statement for free speech (which for right-wingers never includes people they disagree with); it's just being an asshole.

When did being an asshole become illegal?

Why is your entire worldview centered on wanting to be a gratuitous dickweed with zero repercussions, to the extent that you see this nothing as Thee Civil Rights Issue Of Our Time™?
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